Gas bottle stove

[macsbullies]

I have an empty gas cylinder been upside down with valve open for over a week now but can't get water into it, I read somewhere that it's safe to drill into the brass valve is this true. Oh and I can't get valve off with big spanners either

 

[rtbcomp]

How come you can't get water in?

I've managed OK with red propane bottles, connect the garden hose upto it, open the valve, turn the water on and switch it off when it stops running. Remove the hose and gas should exit from the bottle. Repeat until the bottle is full of water.

 

[Welderpaul]

Is it an FLT bottle? If there is no bayonet hose connected, no gas flows, even if the valve is wide open.
Be careful if this is the case, it may still be full of gas, and certainly vapour.

 

[macsbullies]

It's a yellow bottle, butane the kind with a regulator.

 

[Paul.]

Yellow ones are sometimes refillable, the type you take to a garage and fill from the pump, has it got 2 valves and a gauge on it?. if so they cost up to £200 empty from a dealer, turning it into a stove is a waste.

 

[TechnicAl]

Is it a Gaslow bottle

I will swap you for a "PROPER" bottle if you want

 

[macsbullies]

Gas

Below is a pic of the valve that's on it this ain't the bottle, the one I want to use for the stove is like this but yellow and was used on a patio heater

 

[Paul.]

Just an ordinary cylinder then,

 

[Shox Dr]

So have you removed the brass valve assembly?

 

[madkayaker]

big hammer and drift the pin into the bottle should do the trick (that how i do mine) a brass drift would be best as no spark risk as there will definatly be gas in there!

 

[stuvy]

Iv been given one of these from a neighbour do i need to use a regulator to remove all the gas from it? or just turn upside down then use said drift?

 

[madkayaker]

there a self sealing unit so turning it upside down with do nothing! the best way would be to use up the gas in there. BUT if you are needing to ask these kind of questions you need to ask yourself if you are up to the task.

 

[macsbullies]

Drift? Tried it with lump hammer and a set of adjustables but it aint shifting.

 

[stuvy]

was only asking as iv never seen one with that type of brass filler neck before

 

[madkayaker]

there is a pin in the middle that needs to be drifted into the bottle. if you use a big adjustable (18inch or bigger) lay it on side with a bar through handle and hit the adjustable with a big hammer you can remove the valve but there tight. I did one today and taped the hole out to 1/2 BSP so i can use it as a air receiver

 

[macsbullies]

aint shifting with big hammer and spanner is it safe to drill the threaded bit of the valve?

 

[madkayaker]

the problem is with these cylinders in until you have that pin out/ hole in it that you can get water into the cylinder with there will always be gas vapour. it up to yourself to assess the risk of drilling. the valve is brass so safe to drill with no spark risk but there could be a spark generated by the drill motor unless you have an air one. but if outside with a breeze then the gas might not get to the drill?

i used a big hammer and brass drift to knock the pin into the cylinder and will do the same again for any future ones

 

[SC_BK]

Cutting through it slowly with a hacksaw (even just the blade) would IMO be a lot safer than using an electric drill

 

[madkayaker]

agreed

 

[madkayaker]

how to get the tap in straight after you have flushed out with lots of water