Files and file handles

[pint]

have you got a file handle fitting certificate

 

[grim_d]

As an aside, tool control (which the OP describes) is a pain in the ass

A necessary evil but a massive pain in the bum.

The problems described by the OP can easily be overcome by allowing techs to provide additional tool lists which are kept on official file and encompasses all their own or special tooling. (Provided that tooling is appropriate for use)

 

[MetalMonkey]

as it goes for work tools its got something to do with insurance and h&s started off with ladders and now its worked down to the tools
so if you use your own tools your not insured and h&s isnt provided on your tools so you now face a double edge sword if you have an accident on the job

It isn't necessarily anything to do with insurance - it is quite often to do with tool control.

Plenty of places won't allow personal tools, as losing or misplacing a tool inside a piece of equipment has the potential to cause very expensive damage or even cost lives.
Having an inventory of tools and a tool check at the end of each shift means you can identify any lost tools and find them before they cause an issue. This is standard practice in a lot of industries.

The other problem is people using the wrong tools for a task, or tools which aren't calibrated.

Site work with ladders is usually about safety inspections - many sites are happy for you to use a ladder if it is appropriately rated and has been inspected, but this is usually far more effort than using one which has been provided.

 

[James1979]

A necessary evil but a massive pain in the bum.

The problems described by the OP can easily be overcome by allowing techs to provide additional tool lists which are kept on official file and encompasses all their own or special tooling. (Provided that tooling is appropriate for use)

Been under tool control a few times. Didn’t know about the additional tool list.

That would have solved a few problems!

 

[grim_d]

Been under tool control a few times. Didn’t know about the additional tool list.

That would have solved a few problems!

It's entirely up to whoever has set the procedure for tool control wether or not to implement such I guess.

Certainly in aviation the rules from governing bodies can be quite vague.

I.e "you need tool control but how you implement that is up to you provided it is appropriate "

My last place didn't provide basic tools (they did supply special tools) so our tools were all marked by us and we all had our own tool lists, which we had a copy of and the office had a copy of. Procedure was to verify complete tool presence at the start and end of every shift with spot checks on toolboxes to ensure compliance.

As a result I did end up with a number of modified hand tools as well as a number of custom tools that I made up just to make certain jobs easier.

 

[500e]

Suggest they require Level 5

 

[grim_d]

Suggest they require Level 5

Nobody wants to use those yucky snap-on ornaments.

 

[Hitch]

Nope - the one handle supplied is a small wood one.

Idiocy.
How much is a wooden file handle...
£0.50.

If you spend more than 1 minutes of your time changing handles during the working life of those files, it's cost the company more in lost labour than another handle. Based on a very conservative £30/hr labour rate for simple math.

 

[maroon]

i'm not a fan of the snap on. polished toffee.
Fair do's they've replaced them, but i preferer them just not to break.

Elora, King dick.

Now them's tools.

 

[colnerov]

The handle is part of the tool just like a hammer or a saw.

 

[Arc Tourist]

The handle is part of the tool just like a hammer or a saw.

Exactly. Just imagine working for a company supplying you with a variety of hammer heads and only one handle ?

 

[brightspark]

i was always taught to file one way. if the handle comes off it's being used incorrectly.

correct

 

[Robotstar5]

Exactly. Just imagine working for a company supplying you with a variety of hammer heads and only one handle ?

I did some work at company that if you wore out a glove they would only replace the worn glove not the pair!

 

[Parm]

Which country is this happening in?

 

[Tom O]

I was on-site yesterday - tool boxes and all tools required for assembly of machines provided by company, no personal tools allowed. Meaning machines are now a bit of a pig to assemble in places as those vut down, bent, altered tools to make a job easier aren't allowed.

But I mentioned to the main man that while there was a selection of files, only one file had a handle, and I couldn't see any more handles in the assigned tool box . . . the reply this morning - "you are supposed to swap handles" . . . I have pointed out you are supposed to fit handles, one coming loose will likely cause injury, and if he takes a look at the square and tri-square file tangs and compares it to the flat files . . .

Anyone aware of any "official" advice from manufacturers to fit and use handles? I thought I had an old booklet "files and filing" from one of the Swedish makers, but can't find it.

So swap handles and get quality control to sign off on it.