Files and file handles

[bricol]

I was on-site yesterday - tool boxes and all tools required for assembly of machines provided by company, no personal tools allowed. Meaning machines are now a bit of a pig to assemble in places as those vut down, bent, altered tools to make a job easier aren't allowed.

But I mentioned to the main man that while there was a selection of files, only one file had a handle, and I couldn't see any more handles in the assigned tool box . . . the reply this morning - "you are supposed to swap handles" . . . I have pointed out you are supposed to fit handles, one coming loose will likely cause injury, and if he takes a look at the square and tri-square file tangs and compares it to the flat files . . .

Anyone aware of any "official" advice from manufacturers to fit and use handles? I thought I had an old booklet "files and filing" from one of the Swedish makers, but can't find it.

 

[Maker]

That sounds like an absurd rule brought in by an out of touch manager.

I get frustrated with interchangeable bit screwdrivers, doing that with files would drive me mad.

 

[James1979]

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81h0ZOhlOXL.pdf

Point 19

 

[Hitch]

Are they screw on handles?

 

[voipio]

Sounds like the accountants are in charge of the asylum ;-)

Elf & safety wise, it makes no sense to be using one handle across a range of files. Different drill bits and one drill is fine, but many files and just one handle??

 

[bricol]

That sounds like an absurd rule brought in by an out of touch manager.

I get frustrated with interchangeable bit screwdrivers, doing that with files would drive me mad.

I did ask which office based person had decided that . . .

From the subsequent silence, it might have been him . . .

Just seems ridiculous to spend all that money on a lot of "fully" equipped tool chests - and then save a tenner on five handles . . . the time saved when one guy has to take another to A&E for hand repair would pay for it . . .

 

[bricol]

Are they screw on handles?

Nope - the one handle supplied is a small wood one.

 

[maroon]

i've got like 50 files and three handles.
they taper lock. just give them a knock on and off.
perfectly safe for a hand tool.

 

[James1979]

i've got like 50 files and three handles.
they taper lock. just give them a knock on and off.
perfectly safe for a hand tool.

The big difference is between you doing that on your own tools or employing someone to do it with the tools you provide.

As an aside, tool control (which the OP describes) is a pain in the ass

 

[maroon]

that's just health and safety gone mad imo. don't employ idiots that need plastic scissors.

 

[Arc Tourist]

Best file handles you can have..........................

 

[Migmac]

I don’t know the regs but I have a file handle that has a mechanism that accepts different files. One press of a spring and the file falls out. It’s rubbish and I don’t use it ! I much prefer every file to have its own handle. I’ll see if I can find the handle.

 

[Migmac]

Best file handles you can have..........................

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I had a golf ball as a handle on my trailers jockey wheel. I use one on my boat rod too,as a butt stop. Please use crappy golf balls and give me the quality ones

 

[bricol]

i've got like 50 files and three handles.
they taper lock. just give them a knock on and off.
perfectly safe for a hand tool.

Different sized and shaped tangs on different files - you'll soon end up with a loose handle - or when someone uses one without to save time, or finding the one with the handle - and a tang in someone's palm. At home, that's an "ouch" and a plaster . . . at work that's a first aider, a note in at least the first aid book and probably a trip to A&E to cover themselves . . .

 

[mtt.tr]

This guy sounds like the numpty h&s bloke who told my good friend to swap a generator with the mains incomer still live.


He was sacked the next day.

 

[maroon]

i was always taught to file one way. if the handle comes off it's being used incorrectly.

 

[Arc Tourist]

I had a golf ball as a handle on my trailers jockey wheel. I use one on my boat rod too,as a butt stop. Please use crappy golf balls and give me the quality ones

I modified a golf ball once by drilling a small hole and spinning it around on the bit to make a cavity. Was difficult to do, but when filled with lead shot and sealed with a bit of white silicone it wasn't very noticeable. When hit on hard ground the ball wobbled like crazy, but not so much on grass.

 

[Migmac]

Here you go. It’s a good length, over 41/2 inches long. It could be a chainsaw file handle, can’t remember but it takes all sorts of files. It did get a good grip to begin with but whatever is inside it has worn

 

[Arc Tourist]

Here's a very old cast iron file handle that works a treat. Comfortable in the hand but rarely used nowadays, as its stored away with my antique tools.

 

[gaz1]

I was on-site yesterday - tool boxes and all tools required for assembly of machines provided by company, no personal tools allowed. Meaning machines are now a bit of a pig to assemble in places as those vut down, bent, altered tools to make a job easier aren't allowed.

But I mentioned to the main man that while there was a selection of files, only one file had a handle, and I couldn't see any more handles in the assigned tool box . . . the reply this morning - "you are supposed to swap handles" . . . I have pointed out you are supposed to fit handles, one coming loose will likely cause injury, and if he takes a look at the square and tri-square file tangs and compares it to the flat files . . .

Anyone aware of any "official" advice from manufacturers to fit and use handles? I thought I had an old booklet "files and filing" from one of the Swedish makers, but can't find it.

I did ask which office based person had decided that . . .

From the subsequent silence, it might have been him . . .

Just seems ridiculous to spend all that money on a lot of "fully" equipped tool chests - and then save a tenner on five handles . . . the time saved when one guy has to take another to A&E for hand repair would pay for it . . .

just wait until the next moan will come as your taking too long on the job and you should be elsewhere as you normally are when fitting those in on other jobs

as it will come

as it goes for work tools its got something to do with insurance and h&s started off with ladders and now its worked down to the tools
so if you use your own tools your not insured and h&s isnt provided on your tools so you now face a double edge sword if you have an accident on the job