Extreme fast milling machine

[skotl]

This is mesmerising

Two questions;
1. How much do you think the machine costs?
2. How long would it have taken to write and debug the CNC program?

 

[garethp]

There's a youtube channel I subscribe to called NYCNC and John that's runs it does similar stuff, upto now he's used several different Tormach machines which can be bought as comprehensive packages for around $8000. However he's just bought a Haas machine which looks similar in size and speed to the one above and I think he said it was around $100,000

The software he uses is Autodesk fusion 360 which looks fairly easy to use, more complicated than straight CAD but not much more!

Have a look and you'll get the idea

 

[addjunkie]

What this one....http://www.zdnet.com/article/japanese-mill-carves-perfect-helmet-from-metal-block-video/

 

[Hood]

This is mesmerising

Two questions;
1. How much do you think the machine costs?
2. How long would it have taken to write and debug the CNC program?

Hard to say on cost of the machine but if, as the website says, it is made in Germany then I think it will cost a bit more than a HAAS but .....

Regarding the programme, it will have been done with CAM and likely only taken ten minutes or so to get the toolpaths. Debugging usually isn't needed as you simulate first and should see if there are any collisions or wrong moves in the simulation.

 

[Hood]

Actually scrub that comment about the cost, just looked at the machines and they seem to be quite light duty and basically gantry style and more like routers, so cost likely less than a Hass.

 

[normspanners]

The guy across the road that makes teeth in the dental laboratory uses a similar but smaller machine , I helped him fit it, when it first arrived, it was quite expensive and works off cnc program, it makes beautifully sculpted items in titanium from a scan in minutes

 

[pedrobedro]

4x4 place at Darley Dale has a big one. I called in for some bits and watched it carving a transfer box casing from a solid lump. The tool changes are amazing.

 

[normspanners]

The tool changes are amazing.

yep its as if the phrase 'poetry in motion' was penned for the sight!

 

[WorkshopChris]

That looks more like a router than a hard core milling machine and i would imagine it would struggle with anything harder than aluminium.
As far as programming goes at the operator and machine end, either draw item in cad and import into a package to calculate the tool paths.
Or draw directly in the cam package.

However most of the cost in the machines is in the hundreds of hours that go into writing and testing the machine specific post processors. Almost in the same way as a driver for a printer.

 

[Hood]

I still think a Chiron has the best tool change, then again I have an old one (30 years old almost) so I am biased

 

[Hood]

oops wrong vid, here it is

 

[mechman]

Hard to say on cost of the machine but if, as the website says, it is made in Germany then I think it will cost a bit more than a HAAS but .....

Regarding the programme, it will have been done with CAM and likely only taken ten minutes or so to get the toolpaths. Debugging usually isn't needed as you simulate first and should see if there are any collisions or wrong moves in the simulation.

Howld on man there's human beens on this forum.

 

[Hood]

Howld on man there's human beens on this forum.

Confused about what? The CAM or something else?

Here is a vid of the simulation in BobCAD for a part someone wanted to know how to make.

 

[addjunkie]

Easy as that. Once you know how to do it!

 

[the snooper]

very good capability and speed but for that part if they had a lot to do it would be quicker to cast them I would imagine, the amount of material removed was a lot, still I cant imagine any of us turning a free machine down

 

[Hood]

Easy as that. Once you know how to do it!

It is like everything else, steep learning curve then fairly plain sailing after that.

First step is usually to draw the part whether that is with 3D or just 2D depends on your CAD programme (Computer Aided Design) Next you open it in your CAM programme (Computer Aided Manufacturing) and then go through the steps of choosing the toolpaths, tools you want, feeds, speeds, depths of cuts etc etc then you do a simulation and check everything is OK and no collisions then finally you tell it to produce the code which you then send to the CNC.

I use BobCAD for my CAM programme and for the lathe it is especially easy as I have a template made up, I import the drawings, click the toolpaths and press Compute, may have to change a few things such as thread pitch but normally I can draw a part, put it to CAM, and have the code sent to the machine in under 5 mins.

 

[Robotstar5]

Some of the CNC machines used in the K series engine build at Rover were impressive, one problem was after working in there your clothes would stink of coolant

 

[addjunkie]

It is like everything else, steep learning curve then fairly plain sailing after that.

First step is usually to draw the part whether that is with 3D or just 2D depends on your CAD programme (Computer Aided Design) Next you open it in your CAM programme (Computer Aided Manufacturing) and then go through the steps of choosing the toolpaths, tools you want, feeds, speeds, depths of cuts etc etc then you do a simulation and check everything is OK and no collisions then finally you tell it to produce the code which you then send to the CNC.

I use BobCAD for my CAM programme and for the lathe it is especially easy as I have a template made up, I import the drawings, click the toolpaths and press Compute, may have to change a few things such as thread pitch but normally I can draw a part, put it to CAM, and have the code sent to the machine in under 5 mins.

Thanks for that, makes it sound more straight forward........not sure I have the patience to learn though, maybe when I retire!