Eland 130 contacter is burnt out!

[rockyjims]

Hi..

Been investigating issues with my Eland 130 mig. I've narrowed down the problem to the contacter (dil 0052d).

Its contacts are melted away. Struggling to find replacements, any suggestions? Or what to replace the whole contacter unit with?

I'm hoping to keep this welder going as it's a good one!

Thanks

 

[Seadog]

There must be a label on it.

 

[Robotstar5]

DIL is a Moeller (Klockner Moeller) part prefix.

 

[Monkeypeas]

It should be easy and cheap to just replace the entire contactor, You dont need an exact replacement

you need to know what voltage the coil operates at, usually 240v, 42v or 24v, if something like a gas solenoid runs on the same circuit you might be able to read that on there, failing that hook a multimeter up to the coil connections and test it

And then what contact config it is, for an Eland i'd imagine 3 sets of normally open contacts and 1 set normally closed would suffice (thats a pretty common set up), 2 of the 3 normally open contacts will switch the main welding power, the normally closed set will short smoothing capacitors through a resistor to discharge them when you let off the trigger, if it has smoothing capacitors in it, i'm assuming it does.

Final thing is making sure you buy one large enough to handle the power going through the contacts, but being a little 130 you arent going to need a monster

 

[GraemeVW]

I have the same welder and I had to open the contactor and clean it all up to get it working properly.

If you find a suitable replacement though, please update the post as I will no doubt need one eventually.

 

[Blobber]

That looks like its got some changeover contacts in it, dont think you will find a replacement too easily I bet its a special for the machine

 

[GraemeVW]

If you search my user name there is a thread about fixing mine.
There is a schematic in it somewhere.

 

[sparkysy]

Does it look like this one when assembled?

https://www.radwell.co.uk/Shop?source=GoogleShopping&IgnoreRedirect=true&ItemSingleId=62438494&gad=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwscGjBhAXEiwAswQqNKIFj3wQ65DsvnVex0UI6yuml402DdsjmSgk8fAkYDH17eCKly58ZhoC1swQAvD_BwE

Actually think I have found it, looks like 24v 50Hz coil and 20a capacity on the contacts?!

Klockner Moeller DIL 00-52d Electrical Motor 24V 50Hz Universal Contactor

24 V 50 Hz Universal Contactor Hertz: 50 Hz Voltage: 24 V Manufacturer: Klockner-Moelle Part Number: DIL 00-52d Also Known As: DIL00-52d, DIL0052d Condition: New, In Stock Ready to Ship! This unit may show signs of wear and chipping from storage. See photos.

secondwindsurplus.com

 

[Monkeypeas]

Going by the diagrams i found on Graeme's thread, one of a murex tm130, one of an eland, the contactor is either just switching the welding power, 2 normally open contacts, or switching the welding power and discharging the capacitors, 2 normally open 1 normally closed

As i said before, nothing fancy or machine specific, in both cases the coil shares the power going to the gas valve, so if you can confirm this by tracing wires or probing and its a 24v gas valve, its a 24v contactor with a minimum of 2 n/o and 1 n/c set of contacts.

3 n/o and 1 n/c is more common, you'd just not use one n/o set.

Pardon our interruption...

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or a cheap chinese copy chint alternative (24v coil)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Heschen-Contactor-CJX2-1801-Normally-Closed/dp/B07MMPZS5M/ref=sr_1_85?crid=3GBAL5AKZA4AP&keywords=n%2Fc+contactor+24v&qid=1685133304&s=industrial&sprefix=n%2Fc+contactor+24%2Cindustrial%2C125&sr=1-85

 

[rockyjims]

Thank you all for the replies. It's a 240v coil and I'm going to order the above suggestion. I was away this week but I just wanted to wait untill I was back to check the coil voltage! Really appreciate the advice and circuit diagrams, it's been a great learning process for me following wires and cleaning up the old thing