Dead Dyson motor?

[garethp]

The wife was complaining about the Dyson making a funny noise, I had a listen and it sounded like the brushes were worn out.

I've stripped it tonight and the brushes have plenty of length left and the springs are ok, but one has been arcing and the commutator is pitted half the way round.

Would it be worth attempting to strip the motor and skim the comm before fitting new brushes or does it sound like the motor is faulty?

A new motor is £20 on fleabay and new brushes are about £2

 

[rtbcomp]

From my experience with Dyson I'd bin it whilst it's in bits.

When you say the commutator is pitted half way round do you mean 180 degrees of the circumference is pitted and the other half isn't?

Can't see that being a brush fault as it would be pitted all the way round, sounds like shorted segments or windings.

If that is the case I'd go for the new motor.

 

[garethp]

From my experience with Dyson I'd bin it whilst it's in bits.

When you say the commutator is pitted half way round do you mean 180 degrees of the circumference is pitted and the other half isn't?

Can't see that being a brush fault as it would be pitted all the way round, sounds like shorted segments or windings.

If that is the case I'd go for the new motor.

I think they're ok Better than the other vacuums cleaner I've had. This is the second Dyson I've had in 15 years and the first was second hand and is still going.

Anyway, yeah the comm is pitted 180 degrees of the circumference, I'll get a new motor bought - ta for the advice

 

[pedrobedro]

They have a fixed price repair option, my brother in law had his serviced and repaired a couple of times and you get a year warranty with it.

 

[Dave Sherwood]

My neighbour works for Royal mail and he was telling me to avoid Dyson like the plague. Every day of the week he is delivering spares or replacement for Dyson and that is only his local depot. we have had one two years and had to be repaied four times with motor troubles.

 

[rich r]

We've had a Dyson DC05 for almost 10 years, and it's had a hard life. We've got four long haired dogs, plus coal fires and boiler. So it's sucking up large amounts of dog hair and soot every week. We've used it to clean out fireplaces after sweeping the chimneys too.

In that time it's needed a new HEPA filter (soot clogged after 6 years), new hose (attacked by dog) and I've had to shorten the mains cable slightly and put a new plug on after the outer insulation split about 30cm from the plug. None of which really are design or manufacture faults apart from maybe the cable losing flexibility and cracking.

I wouldn't say that's too bad going. The motor is still spot on and it picks up dust and hair as well as it did when new. Maybe the newer ones or the uprights aren't as well made?

 

[Engineer1964]

I think with dyson the Idea is Brilliant, but the manufacture and quality is crap, Made in 3rd world country for peanuts and charged over here as one of the most expensive Vacuum's money can buy.

Not Surprising James Dyson is a Multi Millionaire

 

[Robotstar5]

I've just replaced one of the Dyson airblades at work, cost nearly £700 took the old one apart and they're very well made with quality components held together with screws instead of plastic clips etc.

 

[tigler]

Dyson moved manufacturing to Asia after they were declined planning permission to expand their UK factory. The locals petitioned against the planning proposal on grounds of it adversely affecting the appearance of the area !!

 

[tigler]

I've just replaced one of the Dyson airblades at work, cost nearly £700 took the old one apart and they're very well made with quality components held together with screws instead of plastic clips etc.

I just cannot believe how they can justify that price for a relatively simple device, the only complex thing about it is the 'digital' motor !!

It's like smart phones, I refuse to get sucked into that mania as long as the likes of a certain IT product company deems it acceptable to charge the same price for a bl00dy phone as I can buy a flat screen TV for !!

 

[Engineer1964]

Dyson moved manufacturing to Asia after they were declined planning permission to expand their UK factory. The locals petitioned against the planning proposal on grounds of it adversely affecting the appearance of the area !!

because they wanted to paint the building Purple, Yellow and Red

 

[breezer]

We have a DC04 which we've had probably 12 years.
It needed a new motor recently (fair enough I suppose) but the bread knife took the opportunity to 'upgrade' to one of the new Dyson Ball models.

It feel very flimsy compared to the older DC04 like bits will snap at any point when trying to use it.

It is much lighter, but I bet it doesn't last as long.

 

[rich r]

I wonder if that is the reason then - the older DC01,02,03,04,05 etc models were well built with good quality components, and the more recent models are not?

 

[rtbcomp]

I replaced my Dyson with a Panasonic, which weighs a ton! When customers wanted to know which printer to buy I always told them to get the heaviest one they could afford.

 

[tigler]

It irritates me that Dyson is credited with 'inventing' this type of vac cleaner because he didn't !! Cyclonic dust filtration had been used for decades in industry, all Dyson did was incorporate it into a domestic vac.
He also used to bleat on that he offered to develop it for Hoover, Electrolux etc and they declined him, so he criticised them for being too conservative. No, they were commercially minded and liked the revenue they earned from supplying bags, filters etc for their conventional cleaners.
I'll stick with my Miele thanks, very well made, works very well and showing no signs of failing any time soon.

 

[MattF]

It irritates me that Dyson is credited with 'inventing' this type of vac cleaner because he didn't !! Cyclonic dust filtration had been used for decades in industry, all Dyson did was incorporate it into a domestic vac.

Hasn't he managed to patent loads of the related small scale technology to make it nigh on impossible for anyone else to go down that design route too?

Worked for a couple of shops back between the early to mid 90's to '98 which repaired vacuum cleaners, and even back then the blokes who repaired the vacs never really rated the Dysons. Seem to recall they've always been of debatable quality on the motor front too, if I recall correctly.

 

[pedrobedro]

Dyson moved manufacturing to Asia after they were declined planning permission to expand their UK factory.

Not according to Dyson, purely an economic move for production reasons and here. The research and development is still in Wiltshire isn't it ? The waste removal system at the factory I worked in was called the cyclone and it has been in use for 60 years.

 

[ronan]

I personally can't stand dyson , he is one of these egotistical people who seems to think the world revolves around him.
He wanted to buy and demolish the historic stothert and pitt works in bath to open a training academy. Why buy somewhere like that to demolish it when there are endless brownfield sites and disused buildings around, anyway he didn't get his way.
Pictures below.

http://www.28dayslater.co.uk/forums...thert-and-Pitt-Newark-Works-Bath-January-2010

P.s , whats a digital motor ?

 

[MattF]

P.s , whats a digital motor ?

I'm guessing a posh made up name for a stepper motor so that they can charge twice the normal price for it.

 

[tigler]

Faster than an F1 engine apparently

http://www.dysonairblade.co.uk/technology/dysontech.asp