clutch kit....cover side is which?

[steveo3002]

or its in backwards

shoosh

 

[the snooper]

was it this type of clutch ? if so in this picture the pressure plate would simply fit on top of the friction plate as you see it on the picture is that how you fitted it ?
I would be surprised if its the wrong friction plate unless the diameter didn't match the pressure plate, also wrong friction plates usually wont fit the gear box splines

 

[steveo3002]

thats how i recall fitting against the markings saying cover side...simply didnt fit the other way

no matter now ..its all gone wrong lol

 

[normspanners]

Same clutch as the old maestro
Pressure plate is bolted to the crank
From what I remember it will only go in one way around

some are some not John
he said that his is NOT the pushrod type but a conventional set up??

 

[normspanners]

The springs (if it has them as some dmf ones don't) will compress both ways.

that is the usual thing, the springs work both ways to prevent engine pulses from transmitting into the gearbox to lesson the shock loading of the gears.

but some none dmf clutches dont have shock springs either .


BTW we need to establish if it is a pushrod or conventional clutch fork type clutch.
and also if it has been fitted AAF ---------it may have damaged the pressure plate by over compressing the diaphragm.

 

[the snooper]

that is the usual thing, the springs work both ways to prevent engine pulses from transmitting into the gearbox to lesson the shock loading of the gears.

but some none dmf clutches dont have shock springs either .


BTW we need to establish if it is a pushrod or conventional clutch fork type clutch.
and also if it has been fitted AAF ---------it may have damaged the pressure plate by over compressing the diaphragm.

they usually do, ive seen them push the splined center out

 

[normspanners]

they usually do, ive seen them push the splined center out

yep but I am saying the pressure plate may have been over compressed, and damaged but not obviously someone I know did that similar thing with the plate and only just put the plate back in the correct way, but after the clutch slipped because of lack of clamping pressure. through the diaphragm being over cpmpressed

 

[the snooper]

just had another thought, did you fit a full clutch or just replace the friction plate ? if the later that also could be the problem as the springs become weak on the pressure plate and sometimes don't draw it back far enough to disengage, they are fine with old friction plates but the extra thickness on the new one causes the problem

 

[the snooper]

yep but I am saying the pressure plate may have been over compressed, and damaged but not obviously someone I know did that similar thing with the plate and only just put the plate back in the correct way, but after the clutch slipped because of lack of clamping pressure. through the diaphragm being over cpmpressed

I see what you are saying, springs on pressure plate bent past their limit so become damaged, yeah another possibility

 

[normspanners]

just had another thought, did you fit a full clutch or just replace the friction plate ? if the later that also could be the problem as the springs become weak on the pressure plate and sometimes don't draw it back far enough to disengage, they are fine with old friction plates but the extra thickness on the new one causes the problem

YES Coz a clutch wears tight, not slack, ie takes up any clearance on release brg and the fork.

 

[the snooper]

YES Coz a clutch wears tight not slack

I did one on a transit Tuesday, couldn't select gears when stationary, springs had fallen out of the friction plate and the next lot were on their way as well

 

[normspanners]

Yep I did agolf with the pushrod clutch few weeks ago brand new unit did nt clear nicely at standstill had to replace the clutch-------- again nothing obvious at all, new release bearing, fork, pushrod, etc etc had the box out 4times !!
BA$$ ------ tard things

 

[the snooper]

Yep I did agolf with the pushrod clutch few weeks ago brand new unit did nt clear nicely at standstill had to replace the clutch-------- again nothing obvious at all, new release bearing, fork, pushrod, etc etc had the box out 4times !!
BA$$ ------ tard things

not nice twice never mind 4 times

 

[optima21]

I should have seen this yesterday.....assuming its the age of my polo -pre '94 from the haynes manual

which would indicate this is the right way

and this is the wrong way

and that's a polo clutch

 

[steveo3002]

thats it optima .....pretty sure its the wrong friction plate that ive fitted

 

[Justme]

Error the engine always rotates in the same direction as does the input shafts of the gearbox, regardless of whether a forward or reverse gear is selected, so how does the shock loading alter direction? Down stream of the reverse idler, yes, but surely not before.

Ok Got me re reverse but what about over run?

The wheels are turning the engine so the power is going backwards.

 

[evobilly666]

Ok Got me re reverse but what about over run?

The wheels are turning the engine so the power is going backwards.

Yes i totally agree about over run. Sorry, that message was supposed to say errrrr, not error which sounded kind of patronising and was not my intention.

 

[steveo3002]

was the friction plate wrong....the metal boss where the splines are was too wide and push against the realease bearing guide tube....only took me 8 hrs