clutch kit....cover side is which?

[steveo3002]

fitting a clutch with some semi experienced helpers

the friction place is marked "cover side" and we assumed it meant pressure plate side but the clutch wants to fit the opposite

would you assume "cover" meants the pressure plate or flywheel?

 

[johnik]

cover is pressure plate,what car is it,got a pic ?.

 

[steveo3002]

old vw polo

im not with the car but have some spares at home....to me it looks like it can only one way , t other contacts the flywheel bolts and the friction cant contact the flywheel

try and get some pics in a mo

 

[the snooper]

The friction plate will have more sticking out one side which sits in the pressure plate, there isn't enough of a recess in the flywheel to take it

 

[steveo3002]

so its like the piccy....the raised /proud side wants to sit inside the pressure plate and fitted the other way wont touch the flywheel by my estimation as it contacts the flywheel bolts

guess theres one way to find out ....only other thing is the box of parts has been messed with or the friction plate fits more than one brand of car

 

[Seadog]

It can only be used in one direction because of the shock absorber springs. They obviously need to go into compression when the load is taken up. Assuming you know the direction of rotation of the engine it should be a simple matter to see if they will be in compression when fitted in the manner you think it should be. As already said, the spring assembly should normally fit into the cover.

 

[LewisT]

techniclutch theres your problem

 

[steveo3002]

just a random pic i found ....its a sachs brand who you think would label them correctly , unless cover is german for flywheel

 

[johnik]

Old polo / golf,s used the same type of clutch as monego,s (same trans) where the pressure plate bolted to the crank and the flywheel was on the outside (weird setup)

have a loo at around the 5 min mark

 

[normspanners]

Old polo / golf,s used the same type of clutch as monego,s (same trans) where the pressure plate bolted to the crank and the flywheel was on the outside (weird setup)

they have a push rod through mainshaft and the release brg is on the outer end of the gear box and the 'cover ' is actually the flywheel. so yes it might go the other way
BUT the picture is of a conventional clutch. not a push rod clutch.

 

[steveo3002]

mines not like that vid

i guess i will find out once its buttoned up ....just wondered if id mistaken the word "cover" which common sense says its the pressure plate but what do i know lol

 

[scotb]

that video isnt for a polo as its got a conventional clutch. the video is the 020 box with 90mm couplings as standard and 100mm couplings in the gti and g40/g60 ,1500,1600,1800 etc the deep side of the plate you have goes inside the clutch cover.

 

[normspanners]

Old polo / golf,s used the same type of clutch as monego,s (same trans) where the pressure plate bolted to the crank and the flywheel was on the outside (weird setup)

johnik is correct that some polos did have the pushrod clutch

Clutch push rod for Polo 4 Classic (6V2) with 5-speed gearbox -For 5-speed manual gearbox only.

For Polo Classic (6V2) 96 ->02:
- 1.6 75hp (1F)
- 1.6 100hp (AFT, AKL, APF, AUR)
- 1.7 SDi 60hp (AKW)
- 1.8 90hp (ADD)
- 1.9 Diesel 64hp (1Y, AEY)
- 2.0 115hp (ADC)

old vw polo

all depends on the interpretation of 'old' some people call an 06 as old------- that to me is fairly recent

 

[Justme]

What about reverse?
What about changing down at speed IE over run?

Both put the pressure the other way.

The springs (if it has them as some dmf ones don't) will compress both ways.

 

[evobilly666]

What about reverse?
What about changing down at speed IE over run?

Both put the pressure the other way.

The springs (if it has them as some dmf ones don't) will compress both ways.

Error the engine always rotates in the same direction as does the input shafts of the gearbox, regardless of whether a forward or reverse gear is selected, so how does the shock loading alter direction? Down stream of the reverse idler, yes, but surely not before.

 

[doubleboost]

Same clutch as the old maestro
Pressure plate is bolted to the crank
From what I remember it will only go in one way around

 

[Seadog]

The springs (if it has them as some dmf ones don't) will compress both ways.

True

 

[the snooper]

Error the engine always rotates in the same direction as does the input shafts of the gearbox, regardless of whether a forward or reverse gear is selected, so how does the shock loading alter direction? Down stream of the reverse idler, yes, but surely not before.

the shock loading will alter direction dependent on whether the engine is driving the gearbox or the gearbox driving the engine when slowing down through the gears obviously as you state the engine and input shaft turn the same way no matter what

 

[steveo3002]

right well seems it must be the wrong plate in the right box....clutch wont release with it assembled so box out again next week

 

[the snooper]

right well seems it must be the wrong plate in the right box....clutch wont release with it assembled so box out again next week

or its in backwards