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I know that building standards for agricultural builds are somewhat different. Exactly how different I'm not sure.
Someone who knows more can probably weigh in here.
Someone who knows more can probably weigh in here.
I'm having a tractor shed put up, and the chap who has put up my other buildings over the years is no longer able to build from basic Universal Beams and purlins, but has to buy in a pre-spec'd frame just because of the CE issue - it's a pain 
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different loadings basically, if an agricultural building falls down (lots did the other year in the snows) a few sheep may die, if its full of people working its a bigger problem,
you are not "supposed" to re use an ag building cor commecial use.
Speaking to a bloke the other day
About agricultural building included listed ones
He said if they arnt paying for it he doesnt care what they say
and tbh i think thats fairly true in this situation but possibly depends on size
But theres a couple of farms round gere that have built there own 100ft single span barns and done very good jobs
About agricultural building included listed ones
He said if they arnt paying for it he doesnt care what they say
and tbh i think thats fairly true in this situation but possibly depends on size
But theres a couple of farms round gere that have built there own 100ft single span barns and done very good jobs
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Manufactured structural fabrications brought to site.
If it's made on site then my take on it is that it's legal. Yours might be different but that's what it say "fabricated brought to site"
Insurance? Structural steel building Fabrication needs listing on most insurance policies (repairs does not in general). So that is the only issue Imo.
Of course farm buildings can be used commercially many many thousands are even forgetting that farming is or rather should be a commercial enterprise.
Blooming world has gone mad and I would like to see a body try and enforce much on a farm hse has failed totally miserably
If it's made on site then my take on it is that it's legal. Yours might be different but that's what it say "fabricated brought to site"
Insurance? Structural steel building Fabrication needs listing on most insurance policies (repairs does not in general). So that is the only issue Imo.
Of course farm buildings can be used commercially many many thousands are even forgetting that farming is or rather should be a commercial enterprise.
Blooming world has gone mad and I would like to see a body try and enforce much on a farm hse has failed totally miserably
This is an interesting thread, I recently did a load of welding (on-site) for a friend that was replacing a wooden barn with a steel framed one. He had bought a load of RSJ and cut them to size and angle on site, I welded on the plates etc so it would all bolt together. I know for a fact (like most farmers I know) he doesn't care if it's legal or not.
The best of it is he was paid out by his insurance because the old wooden barn had been "damaged" in last lot of high winds, which gave him most of the money to replace it with a steel structure
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Yes, this is why you shouldn't go beyond your limitsThe legalities don't matter a jot until there is an issue. I'm not suggesting your welding will fail, but in the case that it did, and someone was badly injured or killed then the HSE would be after the owner AND the welder
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Let's tell it as it is though farms are forced to break all sorts of laws daily just to survive, over legislation is not a good thing as the real important ones become just more red tape to skip overThis is an interesting thread, I recently did a load of welding (on-site) for a friend that was replacing a wooden barn with a steel framed one. He had bought a load of RSJ and cut them to size and angle on site, I welded on the plates etc so it would all bolt together. I know for a fact (like most farmers I know) he doesn't care if it's legal or not.
The best of it is he was paid out by his insurance because the old wooden barn had been "damaged" in last lot of high winds, which gave him most of the money to replace it with a steel structure
The legalities don't matter a jot until there is an issue. I'm not suggesting your welding will fail, but in the case that it did, and someone was badly injured or killed then the HSE would be after the owner AND the welder
hse would be after you if that happened and you were ce certed to. ive seen some dreadfull stuff come out of places that should be ce certed, look at the recent photos paul put up.
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And here lies my biggest issue with the whole thing. Recently I took over a job done by a ce firm (was not impressed). Wasn't really a repair therefore I am not insured but the guy was gone for a reason.
