can someone identify this plug and socket

[geoffdown]

i have this plug and socket which i want to get another plug 4 my dad wired it up in his work shop to run and old large oil filled stick welder he only has single phase think he used this as he had it lying around and wanted something big to run the stick welder from i think its a 3ph 32A 3 pin socket i need to get another plug for it thanks for ur help in advance.

pic of socket

pic of plug pin layout

pic of plug

 

[the snooper]

could be old 2 phase plug and socket earth and 2 live

edit yeah it is just looked at pic again is says 2P + E

 

[brightspark]

could be old 2 phase earth and 2 live

a lot of farms had 415volt single phase . best bet would be just bin it and get a new set of 32 amp single phase socket and plugs

 

[geoffdown]

could be old 2 phase plug and socket earth and 2 live

edit yeah it is just looked at pic again is says 2P + E

can u still get them and what r they called so i can search for some on the bay

 

[the snooper]

just use a normal 3 phase socket and just use the connections required if you cant find any

 

[brightspark]

change it to these if its on 240v http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/32A-3-PIN...A%2BFICS%2BUFI&otn=21&pmod=170893352102&ps=54

 

[Tigman]

RS Componenets sell them !

 

[madkayaker]

Would be cheeper to swap to normal four pin plug and socket than pay RS prices.

 

[madkayaker]

change it to these if its on 240v http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/32A-3-PIN...A%2BFICS%2BUFI&otn=21&pmod=170893352102&ps=54

NO! Then the voltage rating would be wrong as well as the gender

 

[brightspark]

NO! Then the voltage rating would be wrong as well as the gender

if u noted what the op had put the 440v socket he allready had lying around so used it but ONLY used on 240 v so the one in the link will be fine ON 240V and buy the plugs to suit .

 

[CompoSimmonite]

Are they plugs that fit into 440v 4 pin sockets but only pick up on 240v with 3 pins ?

Paul H

 

[Robotstar5]

if u noted what the op had put the 440v socket he allready had lying around so used it but ONLY used on 240 v so the one in the link will be fine ON 240V and buy the plugs to suit .

But you linked to an appliance inlet, not a socket?

 

[brightspark]

if u noted what the op had put the 440v socket he allready had lying around so used it but ONLY used on 240 v so the one in the link will be fine ON 240V and buy the plugs to suit .

aw sh ,,.t my fault it was suposed to be a 32 amp 3 pin blue socket. im gonna choke on the humble pie thanks for pointing the error out

 

[madkayaker]

Didn't think I was cracking up but I do miss half the question sometimes

 

[Robotstar5]

This is the type of plug/socket to look for, but with a surface mount socket, should be able to get them on the bay, TLC or local electrical wholesalers.

 

[normspanners]

Are they plugs that fit into 440v 4 pin sockets but only pick up on 240v with 3 pins ?

Just a safety point, If you connect to a 440v 4pin socket, with a three pin plug you would still have 415/440v across single (read) dual phase
to get 240v you would have to connect to a 5pin --3ph neutral + earth socket connecting to 1ph and neutral + earth

 

[Robotstar5]

Just a safety point, If you connect to a 440v 4pin socket, with a three pin plug you would still have 415/440v across single (read) dual phase

The pin spacings are unique, so you can't put a 3 pin plug into a 4 pin socket.

 

[normspanners]

Thanks for that, I do realise that, I should have said if you connected to a 4pin socket using 3 of the pins you would still have 415/440v