Cable/hose reel contraption

[brightspark]

I've just changed the hoses on my gear after 40 years it was Goodyear hose

 

[tinman123]

and what did you put on this time?
all thats stocked about here is the usual run of the mill no name branded stuff which to me lasts no time, not 40 yrs anyways, more like 5 or 6 to me before it shows cracks.

 

[brightspark]

and what did you put on this time?
all thats stocked about here is the usual run of the mill no name branded stuff which to me lasts no time, not 40 yrs anyways, more like 5 or 6 to me before it shows cracks.

just bought a set for 20 quid new from auto jumble think there Goodyear as well

 

[tinman123]

you jammie .........
id say if i wanted good year hose, if its even available today id have to go to the putter, there id be a lot of sucking through teeth if i asked them for that about here...

 

[Bill Edwards]

a similar thought did cross my mind too.

stupid question maybe but bar the blue n red colour coding on proper hose whats the difference in it and good quality black fuel line hose from the likes of gates or any fule line hose for that matter ?
is the gas hose that because its resistant to gas and leaving the safety factor aside would the gates fuel line not do the same job and possibly last longer too...?

or am i missing something.

I'm pretty sure it's very different stuff.
Gas line is made with more than one layer/type of material and is resistant to the gas.
Propane and acetylene hoses are made of different stuff, if you put propane through acetylene pipe work it damages them.

 

[tinman123]

valid points, and probably right.
just wondering was all.

 

[normspanners]

it was more to keep it tidy with automatic recoil.....

do you not think the centre where the lead goes in the drum --------might get a bit twisted up??

 

[Pete.]

Bolt an old deep dish steel wheel to the wall about face height, then you can loop your leads or hoses over it in 10 foot loops. Easy to stow and deploy and the long loops will minimise twisting and bending strain.

 

[ukracer]

do you not think the centre where the lead goes in the drum --------might get a bit twisted up??

nope.....just used as a reel to keep it tidy and completely taken of in use. just using the spring recoil was my idea.

 

[normspanners]

But the cable going in to the centre has to twist coz the drum is going round, either in or out so if the drum turns twenty times the cable at centre has to twist twenty times that is why all recoils have a swivel arangement in the centre or brushes in the case of lectric ones. when you wrap a cable round a static one you do the coiling and the twist is actually all along the cable, even when you wrap a cable up in your hand you have to do a half twist with your free hand to save each loop twisting, that is why leccies allways run twin and earth off a roller to keep it straight and tidy, because if you just drop it off the side the cable ends up twisted.

 

[Johnseat]

Just bolt a standard wheel rim to the wall and wrap the hose around that.
Usually free of charge if you know where to look.

 

[normspanners]

Usually free of charge if you know where to look.

Yep-------- in the wifes boot--------- for what good it is to her

 

[ukracer]

But the cable going in to the centre has to twist coz the drum is going round, either in or out so if the drum turns twenty times the cable at centre has to twist twenty times that is why all recoils have a swivel arangement in the centre or brushes in the case of lectric ones. when you wrap a cable round a static one you do the coiling and the twist is actually all along the cable, even when you wrap a cable up in your hand you have to do a half twist with your free hand to save each loop twisting, that is why leccies allways run twin and earth off a roller to keep it straight and tidy, because if you just drop it off the side the cable ends up twisted.

I mean not through the center. I used a velcro strap to hold the end and then released the recoil. it then wound up the cable. pulling it off was the reverse.

 

[WALM]

I get what you mean, sure it could work for some, sounds like more hassle than its worth for me, my cables are 25m long and 50mm2. hard to find retract reels that could accommodate them i would think....

 

[tinman123]

I get what you mean, sure it could work for some, sounds like more hassle than its worth for me, my cables are 25m long and 50mm2. hard to find retract reels that could accommodate them i would think....

id imagine they would be sharp enough money if you got one anyways.
would you not consider making your own?

i have a reel here with 3/4 air pipe in it, ive never measured it but id guess the hose to be the best end of 15-20mtrs in it and its not a big reel by any means so id say the likes of 25 mtrs of 50mm2 would go on it no bother at all.
on a rotating table i have here there is a copper spud pushed out on a spring against the face plate so as it turns its always earthed, ive never noticed a loss in power using it so something similar could be made up on a reel.
or the likes of a copper bolt through a few plates that run through the main shaft that can rotate but at the same time do the job.

 

[Gareth J]

A company I worked for used simple overhead arms for their long oxy-propane pipes.

Much like the one I built for extraction:
http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/threads/extractor-arm.51054/

Kept the bottles outside in a cage