Bleeding oil fired boiler

[Smallfry]

Last year I had to move the oil storage tank, so decanted the contents into three steel oil drums. They are under cover of a lean to at the back of the house. Only using the boiler for hot water at the moment, so every so often, syphoned off some oil into a container, then transferred in to a temporary tank in the cellar.

Got fed up with doing this, so rigged up a 12 volt fuel pump to transfer the oil via the original feed pipe. I guess because of condensation, the steel drums now have water at the bottom, so the new pump has transferred that as well. Every so often the boiler runs out of oil, mainly because SWMBO does not heed my warnings to check it, and so the boiler gulps up water sometimes, which of course stops it.

Not good for the pump, and also it it very hard to bleed, and ends up very messy, so I have installed one of these.

Automotive diesel filter and water separator, with primer pump. Works a treat, and bakes bleeding quick and easy, with no mess, and no more water into the pump. I hope.

 

[dobbslc]

Now that looks like a burluddy good idea!

 

[dobbslc]

Have you got a link?

 

[julianf]

Have you got a link?

They're Delphi filters with sedimenters.

I have one (just the sedimenter) on my landrover.

If you Google "Delphi sedimenter" somthing will probably come up.

The irritation with them is that they use some odd thread rather than metric, so harder to get tails for, but it's all doable.

The one in the photo has the priming bulb too. You can get them in all different configs.n things like heating loops and all sorts.

 

[julianf]

Eg -

Pardon our interruption...

That's one is loads more cash than it should be (I think they're about £25 or 30) but it gives you an idea.

 

[julianf]

Tiger loops are king when it comes to bleeding.

I have a boiler that runs off a 25 ltr can. If it goes to lockout from running out of fuel, I can put another can on, and press the button. The spin up time before firing is enough to bleed the system and it will fire up again as if nothing has happened.

 

[GRW]

That filter head looks just like the ones fitted to loads of diesel engines of the past, as well as I think pre-silly-electrickery Landrovers.

Generically known around here as a "Lucas CAV Filter" it's a fuel/water Separator, and uses the very cheap and common Coopers AZF015 filter iirc (aka Fleetguard FF167 iirc, & other Cross-refs.... maybe a Crosland 206).

The primer button is the main plus of the type the OP has - generally the ones I came across didn't. E.g.

FUEL FILTER ASSY For Perkins AM - 1004-40T, ED - 4.108, LD - 4.236 Engine | eBay UK

FUEL FILTER ASSY. Compatible Tractor Makes and Models. 1004 Phaser Series. LD - 4.236. TRACTOR PARTS | TRAKTOR RESERVEDELE ENGLAND | PIECES DE TRACTEUR | PIESE DE TRACTOR | PARTES DEL TRACTOR | TRACTOR ONDERDELEN | TRACTOR SPARES.

ebay.us

 

[Smallfry]

They're Delphi filters with sedimenters.

I have one (just the sedimenter) on my landrover.

If you Google "Delphi sedimenter" somthing will probably come up.

The irritation with them is that they use some odd thread rather than metric, so harder to get tails for, but it's all doable.

The one in the photo has the priming bulb too. You can get them in all different configs.n things like heating loops and all sorts.

BOSCH WATER TRAP DEEP BOWL TYPE C/W PRIMER TOP MARINE USE 8MM HOSE TAILS | eBay UK

Fuel Fittings. Suitable to use with Petrol or diesel engines. Our areas of expertise for over 25 years. Perkins parts.

www.ebay.co.uk

You can get them with 1/2 UNF or M14 x 1.5 ports. You will then need an adaptor from this to your boiler hose, which will be 1/4 0r 3/8 BSP, and an adaptor for the incoming pipe.

I want to change the incomer for a compression fitting, but have ordered from China, as they are ridiculous money here.

I chose the glass bowl type, so that I could see any water present.

 

[Smallfry]

Eg -

Pardon our interruption...

That's one is loads more cash than it should be (I think they're about £25 or 30) but it gives you an idea.

I have got one of those, plus another one with an alloy bowl, but bought a new one with the primer pump on it instead.

I agree, the one on your link is somewhat expensive !

 

[Migmac]

We have a tigger loop, works well. Heating engineer has never complained!

 

[GRW]

BOSCH DIESEL FUEL FILTER OE QUALITY HOUSING PRIMER LIFT HAND FEED PUMP CAV 8MM | eBay UK

Suitable to use with Petrol or diesel engines. Fuel Fittings. Perkins parts.

ebay.us

We have a tigger loop, works well. Heating engineer has never complained!

What's is a Tiger or Tigger loop please?
(Let me guess... the 2nd one is more bouncy & fun, fun, fun, fun, fun?)

 

[addjunkie]

BOSCH DIESEL FUEL FILTER OE QUALITY HOUSING PRIMER LIFT HAND FEED PUMP CAV 8MM | eBay UK

Suitable to use with Petrol or diesel engines. Fuel Fittings. Perkins parts.

ebay.us

What's is a Tiger or Tigger loop please?
(Let me guess... the 2nd one is more bouncy & fun, fun, fun, fun, fun?)

Its a bleeding widget that deaerates your fuel supply to the boiler.

 

[Migmac]

As above

 

[dobbslc]

Do they help on a one pipe supply?

 

[julianf]

Do they help on a one pipe supply?

Theres not a whole load of point to them if you have a return line, as the return bleeds the setup anyway.

On a single line supply, the only way to get rid of the air is to manually bleed, or put in one of these.


It should be noted that this is thread diversion - a tiger loop is a bleeding device. Smallfry was having water issues and priming issues. A tiger loop will do absolutely nothing for water issues.

 

[dobbslc]

Thanks, good info.
I always have trouble bleeding the pump when I run out of oil so maybe now I'll get one of these. I'm having a new tank installed in a few weeks time so would be good to fit it then.

 

[addjunkie]

Thanks, good info.
I always have trouble bleeding the pump when I run out of oil so maybe now I'll get one of these. I'm having a new tank installed in a few weeks time so would be good to fit it then.

Be far easier to plan ahead and not run out of oil.

 

[Gareth J]

I had one of these kicking around. Will see if it's still around if you're interested in a second hand one.