Awd car

[bricol]

Both my Alfa and Lancia put drive to all wheels, the Lancia more successfully than the Alfa (LSDs ) - if I get a new tester at MOT time, and he wants to put either on the rollers, I mention the 4WD, and that used gearboxes for the Lancia are now over three grand . . .

We tend to bypass the rollers at that point . . and I already know from when I first bought the Lancia (before I worked on it), it will pass the Taporley (spelling?) test with diagonally opposite brakes seized . . .

 

[atomant48]

Both my Alfa and Lancia put drive to all wheels, the Lancia more successfully than the Alfa (LSDs ) - if I get a new tester at MOT time, and he wants to put either on the rollers, I mention the 4WD, and that used gearboxes for the Lancia are now over three grand . . .

We tend to bypass the rollers at that point . . and I already know from when I first bought the Lancia (before I worked on it), it will pass the Taporley (spelling?) test with diagonally opposite brakes seized . . .

My Mazdas the same and I have a couple spare transfer cases. …. Although I’m optimistic by the time it’s in the road I’ll be MOT exempt.

 

[DAPPH]

Since I'm now sort of retired I don't really need the towing capacity of my l200 so I'm thinking of getting something like a mitsubishi outlander, vw touareg , volvo cx90 or something similar. Still need to be able to tow a couple of ton o casionaly and drive on rough tracks. Looking at 2010 11 and 12 ish models any one any experience of these or anything else I should add to list.

We have an Outlander PHEV on a 15 plate ,, verdict great for pulling a 5 berth Bailey .. 7 miles on the battery alone 24 to 30 mile on local runs using battery and then the 2 litre can drag it anywhere . The selectable 4x4 saw it leave quite a few Chelsea tractor drivers struggling on a muddy grass field as everything is so gentle and powerful being powered by motors not a heavy clutch or accelerator foot .
You can recharge the battery when stuck in traffic jams in about 1&3/4 hours using a quarter of a tank of juice . On the engine alone mode it powers the motors & still goes like the proverbial off a shovel if you choose to push it .


Doing battery only on local runs my lass has only filled it up ten or so times all other motion is from home or selected cheap charge points ( rarely ever motorway charging as its nearly as expensive as petrol ) I've still got the original charge point charger , we upgraded it when I got my Citroes Berlingo EV which took a heavier charge . Our also came with a 13 amp plug in charger which takes six or so hours to charge to full when out on a caravan site which was handy to charge over night & get into LEZ's

 

[northwest]

Audi RS4, that'll do you champion. It had to go though, 11 points in 3 months and very easily done.

 

[Guzrik]

I am in a similar situaton as TS and looking at Suzuki's Grand Vitara (2 liter 16 valve manual for me)
Not sure though but they don't seem to be very popular and I don't know why?

 

[dobbslc]

We have an Outlander PHEV on a 15 plate ,, verdict great for pulling a 5 berth Bailey .. 7 miles on the battery alone 24 to 30 mile on local runs using battery and then the 2 litre can drag it anywhere . The selectable 4x4 saw it leave quite a few Chelsea tractor drivers struggling on a muddy grass field as everything is so gentle and powerful being powered by motors not a heavy clutch or accelerator foot .
You can recharge the battery when stuck in traffic jams in about 1&3/4 hours using a quarter of a tank of juice . On the engine alone mode it powers the motors & still goes like the proverbial off a shovel if you choose to push it .


Doing battery only on local runs my lass has only filled it up ten or so times all other motion is from home or selected cheap charge points ( rarely ever motorway charging as its nearly as expensive as petrol ) I've still got the original charge point charger , we upgraded it when I got my Citroes Berlingo EV which took a heavier charge . Our also came with a 13 amp plug in charger which takes six or so hours to charge to full when out on a caravan site which was handy to charge over night & get into LEZ's

@DAPPH is the PHEV electric drive to all wheels? I'm assuming it uses the engine to charge up the batteries only. Does yours have 7 seats?
I think there's different versions of these cars but I don't know too much about them, the missus is after another Outlander but not a diesel one.

 

[julianthegypsy]

@DAPPH is the PHEV electric drive to all wheels? I'm assuming it uses the engine to charge up the batteries only. Does yours have 7 seats?
I think there's different versions of these cars but I don't know too much about them, the missus is after another Outlander but not a diesel one.

My nephew had one. Only used the engine to charge on long runs. Going to work, he plugged it in at both ends and used no fuel at all on his 40 mile round trip commute.

 

[dobbslc]

Thanks.
I was hoping they don't have a horrible CVT type gearbox like our Honda HRV as I think they are utter crap to drive.

 

[steve t]

I am in a similar situaton as TS and looking at Suzuki's Grand Vitara (2 liter 16 valve manual for me)
Not sure though but they don't seem to be very popular and I don't know why?

Forgot about grand vitara they'd fit bill either

 

[Robotstar5]

I am in a similar situaton as TS and looking at Suzuki's Grand Vitara (2 liter 16 valve manual for me)
Not sure though but they don't seem to be very popular and I don't know why?

I've had the 2.4 auto for getting on 10 years now and found it one of the most comfortable cars to drive. Does about 25 mpg, but I only do a couple of thousand miles a year, book says it can tow up to 1.7 tons, but I haven't had anything that heavy on yet.

 

[Bobupndown]

A late model Freelander 2 fits your criteria. Made up until 2015.
Sd4 auto has the PSA / Ford derived 190hp 2.2 diesel. Tows 2 tons easily. Incredibly capable genuine 4x4. Landrover's most reliable product apparently . Had mine 7 years now. Averages 33mpg which could be better but does all I need it to. Recent heavy snow and icy roads were easily coped with, the selectable terrain response mode snow/grass/gravel activated and it just gets the job done.
Mine is a 2014 with 126k miles on it, shame they stopped making them as I'd have loved a newer version. The 'replacement' Discovery Sport is proving to be embarrassingly unreliable for Landrover and having eye wateringly expensive engine failures for owners.

 

[minimutly]

2.2 Transit engine? In euro 5 guise? Scrap, crap liability of a thing. Someone at Ford made a big mistake

 

[Bornfree]

2.2 Transit engine? In euro 5 guise? Scrap, crap liability of a thing. Someone at Ford made a big mistake

Not in my experience. My transit was at 180k and still going strong when I changed to a citroen relay with the same ford 2.2 engine that's at 168k now. 30k service intervals and uses no oil.

 

[minimutly]

So why did mine eat itself at 38k, my mates (at considerably higher miles), and my local Transit experts wouldn't sell me one for fear of it failing (55k). Something wrong somewhere..
Oh and another mate took a landrover in for repair, engine failure the oil pump vanes had broken up, same rubbish.

 

[DAPPH]

@DAPPH is the PHEV electric drive to all wheels? I'm assuming it uses the engine to charge up the batteries only. Does yours have 7 seats?
I think there's different versions of these cars but I don't know too much about them, the missus is after another Outlander but not a diesel one.

5 seats version via Motability . we needed extra boot space to put my powered wheel chair & hoist in
Correct the engine powers the motors when the battery is used up , combining a full 32 mile charge and a heavy right foot .... is quite thrilling sometimes .