Attaching hook to synthetic winch rope ?

[CompoSimmonite]

I've got a small unused winch that I bought new and forgot about It'll be ideal for pulling my mobility scooter up the ramps into the back of my Discovery but the wire rope is too stiff so I've got some 8mm synthetic rope off eBay -

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181829623166?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&var=480786157379&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
It's nylon core with polyethylene outer therefore not the same as proper (expensive) Dyneema but seeing load will be rolling 150kg it's more than adequate.
I've read simply tying a look reduces rope strength by up to 50% so what is the best way of attaching a hook / eye to the rope I've bought ?
With Dyneema the proper way is splicing but that isn't possible. Is there a boating type know which will do the job ?

Thanks.

Paul H

 

[cumbriasteve]

These sort of things are commonly used:

This is just an example, different sizes and cheaper from the likes of B&Q etc

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CRL-Cable...play-System-/261229034831?hash=item3cd276bd4f

 

[Migmac]

My quad winch has synthetic rope on it, the rope has stitched together to form an eye that the metal pin goes through. You need a different fairlead for the synthetic ropes, think it is an alloy one. Great winch ropes, can fit 18m on my drum where as I could only fit 6m of wire rope before.

 

[Tinbasherdan]

You can splice it, but I'll leave it to someone more experienced than me to explain how. Also Tieing a knot reduces a ropes strength by 1/3 , I would just tie it

 

[shedfull]

Bunny ears knot or similar

http://www.animatedknots.com/index.php?LogoImage=LogoGrog.jpg&Website=www.animatedknots.com

http://www.animatedknots.com/fig8lo...ge=LogoGrog.jpg&Website=www.animatedknots.com

 

[rikrobson]

Basically you put the return inside the rope. check this out

 

[slim_boy_fat]

How about a hangman's noose , but might be a bit bulky on the drum.

Also, it that the kind of rope which has a fair bit of stretch in it?

 

[Fintray]

If you look at this video it will show you a way to do it, as you are unlikely to have the tools shown in the video you can use a piece of say 5mm round bar (cut it lengthways for about 40mm and bend the 2 sides to make an eye then weld tip together and smooth) this can be used to feed the rope through itself. When using this type of needle place it into the rope at the point where the video shows the Fid exiting and feed it through to the point where the video shows the Fid entering the rope and feed the tapered end of the rope through the needle fold the rope back on itself secure with a piece of tape and carefully pull through.
Where the video shows measure one Fid length as long as you select a length less than that of the needle you have made that will be ok.

Rikrobson beat me to it.

 

[711jrp]

Basically you put the return inside the rope. check this out

This.... Use this on marine winches and never had it fail.

 

[CompoSimmonite]

Can't splice the type of rope I have as different construction to the ones above. The core is nylon rope the same, albeit bigger, as light switch pull cord with an outer sheath.
What knot do climbers use ?

 

[colnerov]

Hi, What is the breaking strain of the rope? What is the weight of the load? Would a knot reduce the capacity of the rope below the weight of the load? If you're pulling up a ramp with an angle of 45 degrees or more it is classed as a lift.

Colin

 

[octo0072000]

this will work OK for what you need just use a little shackle and or hook no need to over think it

 

[CompoSimmonite]

Hi, What is the breaking strain of the rope? What is the weight of the load? Would a knot reduce the capacity of the rope below the weight of the load? If you're pulling up a ramp with an angle of 45 degrees or more it is classed as a lift.

Colin

Rope has a breaking strain of 960kg. The load is 150kg. The angle is under 20 degrees. Will probably go with a knot so now just wondering what is best type to use.

 

[Brad93]

Well I'm a rope access tech. The strongest knot you could easily tie is a figure of 8 loop knot or even stronger a figure of 9 loop

 

[rikrobson]

use a grinner not then

 

[CompoSimmonite]

Isn't it funny how out of all the possible numbers of knots that exist most people, like me, can only do maybe half dozen at most

 

[Tinbasherdan]

I agree, have done rope access too and figure 8 is the easiest and least likely to effect the strength

 

[daleyd]

Isn't it funny how out of all the possible numbers of knots that exist most people, like me, can only do maybe half dozen at most

Most other knots are variations on the same basic ones...

 

[mike os]

Figure of 8 should be fine, good enough for aerial access and rescue so should be fine imo