Anyone going to paris by car you will need to read this

[octo0072000]

Anyone going to paris by car you will need to read this new Crit'Air system


First use of new Crit'Air system
January 22, 2017

THE FIRST vehicle ban in Paris using the new Crit'Air anti-pollution sticker system will take effect on Monday, January 23, as authorities attempt to limit the effects of a pollution spike in the capital.

Vehicles that have a grey category 5 sticker will not be allowed on the roads of the capital within the perimeter of the A86. The motorway is not included in this restriction.

Also read: Driving in Paris? You need a sticker

Category 5 is restricted to diesel engined vehicles from 1997 to 2000 (Euro 2). The mairie has also applied to extend the ban to vehicles with a category 4 sticker - which would also affect diesel engined vehicles from 2001 to 2005 (Euro 3).

Authorities have advised commuters to use public transport wherever possible.

All vehicles on the roads in Paris must now display an anti-pollution sticker on the windscreen. To order a Crit'Air sticker, log on to the website www.certificat-air.gouv.fr/. The tickets cost €4.18 to send to an address in France.

Meanwhile, vehicle registration-based restrictions will be imposed in Lyon and Villeurbanne, due to a "persistent" episode of fine particulate pollution. Vehicles with an odd-numbered registration plate will be allowed to travel on Monday.

A full report on the new Crit'Air sticker system in Paris will be published in the March edition of Connexion, which will be in shops next weekend.

Also read: Paris 'will cut traffic by half'

 

[wookie]

Already been discussed in this thread http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/threads/french-emissions-stickers.70198/ but it got locked 'cos it got a bit political....

 

[octo0072000]

Already been discussed in this thread http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/threads/french-emissions-stickers.70198/ but it got locked 'cos it got a bit political....

must have missed that one the links take you to the english version of the french paper as to how to buy the stickers for your car for the
new Crit'Air system

 

[Robotstar5]

Normally merge duplicate threads, but as long as this one stays non-political I'll leave it open.

 

[Kayos]

I don't intend to go to Paris so a bit of a non issue, but is it just diseasal engines?

 

[norlander]

No you don't, if you use the ring road you don't need em, if actually in the zone and pulled over, you just say "its in the post". "I'm using the wifes car today as mine would not start"

Even if you do bother to buy a sticker its cheaper than London.

https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/congestion-charge/congestion-charge-zone

but is it just diseasal engines?

engine types right in the centre of the linked article in bold type??????

We keep costs down by covoiturage -c

 

[Kayos]

No you don't, if you use the ring road you don't need em, if actually in the zone and pulled over, you just say "its in the post". "I'm using the wifes car today as mine would not start"

Even if you do bother to buy a sticker its cheaper than London.

https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/congestion-charge/congestion-charge-zone



engine types right in the centre of the linked article in bold type??????

We keep costs down by covoiturage -c

I didn't click the link....

Seems mine is orange if I do go, wonder if the Jean Damme would spot the decat and no centre box?

 

[reb78]

Are they assuming that nothing exists prior to the engine Euro classification?

What happens for my 1989 Land Rover 110? I cant see reference to it anywhere in their text? (And i do tour france in it from time to time, so it's feasible it might be near/in this zone one day)

 

[kier]

so the eastern side , north to south peri watsit ring road is ok

 

[octo0072000]

Bit more info here applies inside the "ring road"
Boulevard Périphérique

Crit'Air stickers must be displayed on all vehicles driving in Paris - even foreign cars in the city for a short period; while, from Monday, all vehicles registered before January 1, 1997, will be banned from the city's streets between 8am and 8pm, Monday to Friday. HGVs, buses and coaches registered before that date are banned completely.

Drivers who do not display the stickers in their vehicles could face a fine of up to €68, but police have said that there will be a short grace period when fines will not be imposed.

Vehicles staying on the Périphérique to pass through the city on the way to other parts of France will not need a sticker.

The system is Paris's latest plan to restrict traffic during periods of high pollution. Until now, the city has introduced restrictions based on vehicle registration plates, but the new system will use a colour code.

Depending on pollution levels, only cars with appropriately coloured stickers will be allowed into the centre of the city. Higher pollution will mean more vehicles are banned.

The following cars will display the following stickers:

Green (Crit'Air) for a electric or on-the-road hydrogen car;
Violet (Crit'Air 1) for a hybrid or petrol registered in 2011 or later (Euro 5 and 6 standard);
Yellow (Crit'Air 2) for a petrol from 2006 to 2010 (Euro 4) or diesel from 2011 (Euro 5 and 6);
Orange (Crit'Air 3) for a petrol from 1997 to 2005 (Euro 2 and 3) or a diesel engine from 2006 to 2010 (Euro 4);
Bordeaux (Crit'Air 4) for a diesel engine from 2001 to 2005 (Euro 3);
Grey (Crit'Air 5) for a diesel engine from 1997 to 2000 (Euro 2)

Diesel cars registered before 1997 are too old to qualify and are subject to a total ban between 8am-8pm Monday-Friday.

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To order a Crit'Air sticker, log on to the website www.certificat-air.gouv.fr/. The tickets cost €4.18 to send to an address in France. Authorities have warned that criminals have set up scam sites - with one fake charging nearly €20 for an illegal sticker.

On January 1, Grenoble introduced the government-backed Crit'Air system to control traffic flow during pollution peaks, and other towns and cities are expected to follow suit.

 

[malcolm]

Are they assuming that nothing exists prior to the engine Euro classification?

What happens for my 1989 Land Rover 110? I cant see reference to it anywhere in their text? (And i do tour france in it from time to time, so it's feasible it might be near/in this zone one day)

I remember reading in the classic press about an exemption for cars over 30 (or maybe 40) years old so long as they are registered as collectable which leaves cars built between 1987 and 1997 not allowed within the Peripherique at all. It's not clear as the French refuse to say anything in English.

Dates will roll in time as emissions standards tighten. http://urbanaccessregulations.eu/countries-mainmenu-147/france/paris is reasonably clear on the plans. Seems fair to me people living in a big city full of traffic jams are worried about air quality. There is always the RER if you stay outside the middle of Paris.

 

[octo0072000]

Malcolm aren't they classed as historic Mr fluffy should know he has a older 2CV

 

[norlander]

Yikes

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-38782211

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-38170794

Saw an article where it said London air pollution was worse than Beijing (must have meant in certain conditions?) , it put it down to the increased use of woodburning stoves.

Diesel fuel still quite cheaper round here, gues what they might need to do longterm is subsidise a trade in incentive, think it was done before, but I forget what for.

 

[MrFluffy]

Malcolm aren't they classed as historic Mr fluffy should know he has a older 2CV

I don't have a 2cv, thats malcom I think. The 101 is registered as a classic vehicle so exempt from the restrictions, but as my 90 is still registered as a normal vehicle not collectors carte grise it is banned, even though its old enough to qualify as a collectors vehicle. Same as our diesel motorhome. There are restrictions on classic vehicle usage, in that you cannot use something with a collectors carte grise for anything commercial. So in some cases for working vehicles it reduces their value. On the plus side the CT is every 5 years, not every 2 (one for my landrover 90as its a 3 seater and classed as a commercial so it has to have diesel emissions testing yearly, which much to my amazement, the crappy old 2.5td manages to pass every year)

But, in general I'd rather put stingy flying things up my bottom than visit Paris for anything but strictly business personally. Won't be buying another Disney golden ticket for the family either. I encourage anyone put out by the green mayors attack on cars to vote with their wallet too.

 

[MrFluffy]

Yikes

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-38782211

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-38170794

Saw an article where it said London air pollution was worse than Beijing (must have meant in certain conditions?) , it put it down to the increased use of woodburning stoves.

Diesel fuel still quite cheaper round here, gues what they might need to do longterm is subsidise a trade in incentive, think it was done before, but I forget what for.

If they were really after reducing pollution rather than trying to ban motor vehicles for normal people reducing the duty on LPG back to the level it was introduced at would be a good idea. When we first ran a lpg car, it worked out cheaper than diesel because as a green fuel (emissions wise) it attracted a low tax band, offsetting the pain of the cost of getting it registered (it had to have a MINES inspection, and get a official plate etc before you could CT or mot the vehicle with it on). Now its almost as expensive as running normal petrol with a load more expensive and hassle.

 

[octo0072000]

I don't have a 2cv, thats malcom I think. The 101 is registered as a classic vehicle so exempt from the restrictions, but as my 90 is still registered as a normal vehicle not collectors carte grise it is banned, even though its old enough to qualify as a collectors vehicle. Same as our diesel motorhome. There are restrictions on classic vehicle usage, in that you cannot use something with a collectors carte grise for anything commercial. So in some cases for working vehicles it reduces their value. On the plus side the CT is every 5 years, not every 2 (one for my landrover 90as its a 3 seater and classed as a commercial so it has to have diesel emissions testing yearly, which much to my amazement, the crappy old 2.5td manages to pass every year)

But, in general I'd rather put stingy flying things up my bottom than visit Paris for anything but strictly business personally. Won't be buying another Disney golden ticket for the family either. I encourage anyone put out by the green mayors attack on cars to vote with their wallet too.

someone on here has or had a old very old 2CV lives in france
it's not Malcom
won't get me into paris now either ring road is near enough then down to the cote sauvage used to like the 50 miles or so before biarritz lots of little neat places and camp sites couple of big lakes as well

 

[dazza]

I just received a yellow sticker through the post it says optional, wont stick it now but will put it somewhere safe just incase they make it compulsory.