aluminium to steel

[and220]

hopefully someone can help is it possible to weld mig weld aluminium to steel ? we have too many customers at work losing there locking wheel nut keys and wondered if this was possible to save on drilling and chiseling.

 

[scott0031]

The quick answer is, no you cant.


kind regards,


Scott

 

[Tigman]

Firm and too the Point !

 

[madkayaker]

I agree with Scott. What about with brazing wire in mig? Cost possibly defeats the point though

 

[aametalmaster]

we have too many customers at work losing there locking wheel nut keys and wondered if this was possible to save on drilling and chiseling.

Locking wheel nuts are steel so why do you need alum weld? Just tack on a steel bar and twist them off. Or am i missing something?...Bob

 

[drivewasher]

Locking wheel nuts are steel so why do you need alum weld? Just tack on a steel bar and twist them off. Or am i missing something?...Bob

I weld on a CYLINDER head bolt as they are quite hard and don't snap when you twist em off.

 

[steviec_lj]

Locking wheel nuts are steel so why do you need alum weld? Just tack on a steel bar and twist them off. Or am i missing something?...Bob

Was just about to point the same out...

Tack a nut on the end, off she comes, done it a couple of times, mainly the heat going through the nut/bolt that frees it off I think.

 

[dannyp]

hammer socket over top

 

[hotrodder]

Locking wheel nuts are steel so why do you need alum weld? Just tack on a steel bar and twist them off. Or am i missing something?...Bob

This. If you're in the trade and so have to deal with this regularly i would have thought proper removal tools would be the way forward... pay for itself in no time, no worries about damaging someones wheels when faced with deeply recessed bolts and locking nuts/bolts that feature a free spinning collar- both applicable to the wheels on my daily

 

[Pete.]

What about a gator-grip type tool?

http://toolsforstagecraft.com/gatorgripkit.jpg

 

[zardoz]

If i were you. i'd go to my nearest freindly car scrappy and ask if you can have a selection of locking nut keys from out of the vehicles. They are usually either in the spare wheel with the cheapo scissor jack, inside a piece of polystyrene or inside a small plastic bag. Or in the glove box etc. There cant be too many different shapes to them unlike actual keys. (can there ? All my wheel nut keys have seemed very generic to me)

 

[zx9]

What about a gator-grip type tool?

http://toolsforstagecraft.com/gatorgripkit.jpg

It (gatorgrip) would be destroyed by a fraction of the torque required to remove a wheel bolt.

 

[the snooper]

This. If you're in the trade and so have to deal with this regularly i would have thought proper removal tools would be the way forward... pay for itself in no time, no worries about damaging someones wheels when faced with deeply recessed bolts and locking nuts/bolts that feature a free spinning collar- both applicable to the wheels on my daily

+1
there are tools designed for the job, why make it harder then it has to be

 

[Shox Dr]

If i were you. i'd go to my nearest freindly car scrappy and ask if you can have a selection of locking nut keys from out of the vehicles. They are usually either in the spare wheel with the cheapo scissor jack, inside a piece of polystyrene or inside a small plastic bag. Or in the glove box etc. There cant be too many different shapes to them unlike actual keys. (can there ? All my wheel nut keys have seemed very generic to me)

I agree there can't be many combinations, only problem is there are a few companies making them, and I doubt they share style or combinations, if only as a marketing ploy, so you might get a shock as to how many there are.


Veering off subject a little: a lock may have many thousands of possible combinations (most have as little as 10 keys), the more you pay the higher the number of combinations. However nearly all have a master key.

 

[Robotstar5]

Veering off subject a little: a lock may have many thousands of possible combinations (most have as little as 10 keys), the more you pay the higher the number of combinations. However nearly all have a master key.

The yale locks we had in the foundry were grouped, they had individual keys and a master key for each group, security had a "grand master" key that would fit every lock on site.

 

[brightspark]

The yale locks we had in the foundry were grouped, they had individual keys and a master key for each group, security had a "grand master" key that would fit every lock on site.

i got a yale lock given and one key took it to a locksmith for a spare and got a grilling on where it came from he wouldnt cut it unless i had paperwork for it with numbers i just told him from carboot sale

 

[Shox Dr]

The side door to my workshop came with 9 keys

2 fitters keys, that stopped working as soon as another key was used and 6 std keys, and 1 master that stops all keys from working once used.

 

[the snooper]

i got a yale lock given and one key took it to a locksmith for a spare and got a grilling on where it came from he wouldnt cut it unless i had paperwork for it with numbers i just told him from carboot sale

wasn't an ASSA was it ?

 

[brightspark]

wasn't an ASSA was it ?

dunno this is it

 

[the snooper]

nope guess it wasn't then