Shox Dr
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Yup. Typical of what happens.
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Yup. Typical of what happens.
8ob
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My landscape lads build a lot of basic forestry roads and tracks, they dont need to be expensive. A simple timber edge with some road planings is more than good enough for a road with just a few cars a day using it.
One we made earlier, about a mile long
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Plannings have be declassified from being a possible pollutant to being an acceptable road dressing for farm/forestry tracks which is why demand is high. That said they are still only a hundred pound a load directly off the contractors and because they are paying for the trucks they make sure they are brimmed, if they pulled them onto a weighbridge they would all be way over. Buying off a stockpile can be anywhere from £250-350 a load depending on distance and you won’t get anywhere near the amount. We use thousands of tons a year and by far the best and cheapest way to get hold of a load is to put your name down on the contractors list of possible places to offload, your local highways officer will tell you which roads are next up for resurfacing and what contractor is doing it, downside of this is they can turn up at any time, last lot we had was a 3am drop.
Bob
Allso if you see any "surface dressing " (tar and chipping ) , have a word with the lads , when they send a road sweeper to sweep up the excess chippings ..... a few quid should work wonders 
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When I first started truck driving I drove a tipper carrying the chippings with a scow end
There were some characters on that job
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.When I first started truck driving I drove a tipper carrying the chippings with a scow end
There were some characters on that job
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Shox Dr
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Nice @8ob.
Im sure you’ll agree, its not the building, it’s the up keep. And finding some one who knows how to get rid of potholes, instead of just filling them.
Problem is no one wants to know, I’ve lived in 3 houses as a kid, down shared lanes, and can vividly remember arguments about, potholes, speed, not giving way, parking, rubbish, them at number xyz.
Im sure you’ll agree, its not the building, it’s the up keep. And finding some one who knows how to get rid of potholes, instead of just filling them.
Problem is no one wants to know, I’ve lived in 3 houses as a kid, down shared lanes, and can vividly remember arguments about, potholes, speed, not giving way, parking, rubbish, them at number xyz.
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Our drive is an old railway line, its exactly a mile from tarmac to our gate, fortunatley or unfortunatly depending on your side of the debate, I dont own it, my neighbour does. We have legal access, but also a vicarian right in the deeds to cross all the land between here and the village where the old abertoir was. When I mentioned this right to our neighbour he didnt know about it, a few days later came and said can I see your old deeds as thats not mentioned in mine.
I will say filling pot holes as my neighbour does, ie shovel in. Is an absolute waste of time, it needs to be broken up then rolled or whacked back in.
My issue is next door were paid to allow the waterboards contractors to lay the new water main. They broke the drains, and its never been the same since.
Now, I go an offer assistance when I see them filling pot holes, as last year I got and paid for 200 ton of tar plainings, spent a couple of days filling and rolling in with a borrowed roller. Got no thanks, just a whinge from their daughter, that Id not filled all the holes. Sadly getting road plainings up here isnt easy as we are a bit far out, but have 4 drivers numbers, and ring them now and then to keep us on their list. Like to keep 30 ton or so handy for the drive from the track to our house.
I want to use the stone grinder, rip the hole thing up and regrade, but its expensive to hire the guy with the machines in, but they are sheep farmers and want to do it with 1/2 a ton of plainings and a shovel. Only way I can describe them is short sighted and pig headed. If I get asked for financial contribution, we may have words, as itll be yes ok, once you fix the drains, and we do it properly. Ive borrowed a box grader for over the christmas hols, so will see how it works, but not hopeful.
If your looking online for road solutions google road reclamation.
It is currently really bad and getting worse. We both drive pickups, so not an issue, but it wont be long before tesco or similar refuse to deliver here, hopefully itll be his feed wagons, then there may be some progress. White van man courriers dont help doing 50mph. But they dont buy their own vans.
I will say filling pot holes as my neighbour does, ie shovel in. Is an absolute waste of time, it needs to be broken up then rolled or whacked back in.
My issue is next door were paid to allow the waterboards contractors to lay the new water main. They broke the drains, and its never been the same since.
Now, I go an offer assistance when I see them filling pot holes, as last year I got and paid for 200 ton of tar plainings, spent a couple of days filling and rolling in with a borrowed roller. Got no thanks, just a whinge from their daughter, that Id not filled all the holes. Sadly getting road plainings up here isnt easy as we are a bit far out, but have 4 drivers numbers, and ring them now and then to keep us on their list. Like to keep 30 ton or so handy for the drive from the track to our house.
I want to use the stone grinder, rip the hole thing up and regrade, but its expensive to hire the guy with the machines in, but they are sheep farmers and want to do it with 1/2 a ton of plainings and a shovel. Only way I can describe them is short sighted and pig headed. If I get asked for financial contribution, we may have words, as itll be yes ok, once you fix the drains, and we do it properly. Ive borrowed a box grader for over the christmas hols, so will see how it works, but not hopeful.
If your looking online for road solutions google road reclamation.
It is currently really bad and getting worse. We both drive pickups, so not an issue, but it wont be long before tesco or similar refuse to deliver here, hopefully itll be his feed wagons, then there may be some progress. White van man courriers dont help doing 50mph. But they dont buy their own vans.
Sounds like it needs a track smasher running up it, I acquired one of them cheep as it kept running the gearboxes out of tractors so made a wheeled powerd tool carrier for it, if your feeling flush it’ll even mix cement in with the track as it smashes it up, run up and down it with a vibrating roller after and it’s a damb good roadway. Sadly sits unused as no one wants to spend more than 50p on a track
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No loose surface lasts unless you can keep the edges intact and the water off the surface. On communal loose surface tracks we edge them with upturned concrete sleepers ( very cheap) , a dollop of concrete each end and shingle through the middle to allow drainage into the ditch off the loose surface. You can bounce dustcarts off these and they wont budge.
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those sleepers were made over the road from my house for years . dow mac concrete works they even had there own railway sidings on to main track
they even had there own railway sidings on to main track
8ob
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those sleepers were made over the road from my house for years . dow mac concrete works
Very well made, they have about twenty reinforcing steels running through them and the concrete is like a granite chip based aggregate
Bob
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Exactly, as much as 50p omg thats too expensive. Ill shovel some fire ash in its cheaper!
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Looks fantastic Bob, F-i_L wants to do something similar with his access track, although it’ll be years before he gets around to it.
Roughly how much are we looking at for a 500mtr track like the above?
We’d need to put some form of boundary fencing at this property if we went for it, 4 young kids would benefit from being “enclosed”, although I’m an advocate for free range
Roughly how much are we looking at for a 500mtr track like the above?
We’d need to put some form of boundary fencing at this property if we went for it, 4 young kids would benefit from being “enclosed”, although I’m an advocate for free range
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Sounds just like the lane to my house 1 street light no mantenc potholes everywhere no one wants to pay
I used to collect secondhand concrete sleepers from a rail yard in march Cambridgeshire now and again as backloads if we were over that way .used to take them to farms for use as cattle tracks mostly .
Was a great roadside burger van there , awesome tiger bread baguettes , she toasted the inside on the hot plate
Nice lady ran it she did wear a bit too much makeup tho 
Was a great roadside burger van there , awesome tiger bread baguettes , she toasted the inside on the hot plate
Nice lady ran it she did wear a bit too much makeup tho
Ours was the same. 5 houses and 1 wouldnt pay....the 4 of us paid to have it tarmacced....about 2 years later when the drains got adopted by Severn Trent the council adopted the road....It needs some work now but Ive written to them and all I get is no money......so even if they adopt your street dont expect much work....I even have to email them to sweep the street.
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Looks fantastic Bob, F-i_L wants to do something similar with his access track, although it’ll be years before he gets around to it.
Roughly how much are we looking at for a 500mtr track like the above?
Steve just on rough calcs @ 3mts wide and assuming you are doing the work yourself, buying the planings/concrete sleepers direct it would be about £15 per linear meter.
This one using second hand wooden sleepers and scalps worked out about £60 per linear meter so the concrete sleepers/planings offer a big saving.
