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This is exactly it until tech improves to store it the only safe way to function is to dump load until it can be stored.Not like we can store it
This is exactly it until tech improves to store it the only safe way to function is to dump load until it can be stored.Not like we can store it
This is exactly it until tech improves to store it the only safe way to function is to dump load until it can be stored.
It paints a bleak picture but there's a lot of old data used to suit his storyYou really should watch "Planet of the Humans."
Green power has gone mad, a simple solution is to just turn off a few of the inverters that feed in the solar and rely more on big spinney heavy metal, problem solved in the short term
Why rely on green just for the sake of it, if the grid is at risk its not worth the eco brownie points.
I read it as short term while the load is high.It was your second sentence that made me say that - no issues with turning off stuff, the problem is as usual we put the cart before the horse in encouraging renewables before making sure the grid could cope, or do that, but then if we hadn't we'd still be waiting for the grid to sort itself out. I can't see that being a reason not to do anything though.
Longer term there will be less and less heavy spinning generators, so we will need some means of ensuring all the dc to ac inverters are stable. Maybe I took your post to mean long term, not short term as you may have meant it?
One thing is certain, there will be less and less heavy spinning things running on gas and coal, hopefully there will be sufficient nuclear driven ones to stabilise things, but the investment is huge.
Perhaps one of the answers may be to alter how the hydroelectric plants work, use any solar excess power to pump water for storage to use at times with little wind. Shame we are a very overpopulated landmass with little scope for more plants to be created.It was your second sentence that made me say that - no issues with turning off stuff, the problem is as usual we put the cart before the horse in encouraging renewables before making sure the grid could cope, or do that, but then if we hadn't we'd still be waiting for the grid to sort itself out. I can't see that being a reason not to do anything though.
Longer term there will be less and less heavy spinning generators, so we will need some means of ensuring all the dc to ac inverters are stable. Maybe I took your post to mean long term, not short term as you may have meant it?
One thing is certain, there will be less and less heavy spinning things running on gas and coal, hopefully there will be sufficient nuclear driven ones to stabilise things, but the investment is huge.
Perhaps one of the answers may be to alter how the hydroelectric plants work, use any solar excess power to pump water for storage to use at times with little wind. Shame we are a very overpopulated landmass with little scope for more plants to be created.
Yes, I was thinking short term.
No we haven't exploited all the pumped storage on the uk - it's just not economically feasible. But of course there's economically viable and environmentally viable. The two don't allways tie up in time - so economically viably we could mine the planet for all the chemicals needed for batteries, create a huge problem for the future, but is that longer term environmentally viable? The total cost of nuclear needs to take into account building it, running it and making it safe, so the two costs are taken into account - it's expensive.
Flood a valley or three in wales - environmentally is that viable? Probably, compared to digging up whole countries.
You tie wind, solar, and night generation up to a big old dam, it's better than a battery, but the civils needed to make it financially viable is huge. Probably need a pumping load equivalent to the generation of a big power station to make it work - no sign any european government has the cahones to do this yet.
I'm a hydro engineer, so you might say I have a vested interest, but I know that I'd rather melt iron to make steel, use that for 50 years to make power then remelt it, than dig big holes to mine chemicals constantly, and litter the countryside with them. The latest big thing is Hydrogen from renewables, using it for heat, for motive power etc - also a clean battery?
It’s got a part to play but to imagine that nuclear is some kind of environmental magic bullet that will cure all our problems is sheer fantasy. The actual nuclear power station itself produces very few emissions but the whole life cycle of the fuel (From extraction, purification and disposal/recovery)requires considerable energy, as well as the other issues regarding security and safety of what goes in and out. Don’t get me wrong, I find nuclear power fascinating and the technology and science behind it are phenomenal - I’ve been lucky enough to have done some work for processes in the industry - but Arthur C Clarke once said it’s been the biggest disappointment of his lifetime, from such a promising start when slogans like “too cheap to meter” were bandied about.Or we could just go back to nuclear like the French!
are you at the refinery?Not able to quote the source, it's come via work - we are a major power user as well as a generator - the issue for us is loss of supply more than anthing else. With weather related loss we normally switch plants to standby generation - in this instance it will be counter - productive...
Not arsebook story, this is genuine, a real risk.
Or we could just go back to nuclear like the French!
This sounds a bit odd - I can't see anyone paying to run a gshp to warm up the ground, unless it's in order to cool the house in summer.
Unless it's maybe if you're on the octopus agile tarriff where, on the odd occasion prices go very close to zero, or even negative. At this point, the high losses involved in trying to heat up the earth, for recollection later might make sense?
Anymore info? Genuinely intrigued
daughters just got back to work offshore 1 week on one week off there going to send her on the hv course no extra money but another string in her bow for the cvComplete **Language** a supply issue at the weekend. What do people normally do at the weekend apart from stay at home. A few lights not switched on in pubs isn't going to make a lot of difference.
If we want green energy we should get me back working on wind turbines. Was supposed to be dangling off one last month.
Having spent a reasonable amount of time designing high power electronics I'll just say that is not the case if done properly. Trouble is everything is engineered to a cost now which means everything is pushed to the limit.Anything with high power electronics such as AC to DC converters are very delicate and have extremely sensitive trip levels
It is partly to cool the properties but it's a big shared ground loop system, usually multi bore hole, each property has it's own heat pump but no buffer tanks are needed
Is the octopus tariff the one with 30 minute billing?