Alloy Sump Repair Glue?

[B20]

hi, Changed the engine Oil in my new to me Car, took the undercover off to get to the drain plug and noticed a 50mm crack in the Sump, very very slight weep.
Maybe in the summer I could remove it and have it welded.
In the mean time has anyone fixed a alloy sump with a glue like JBWeld or something?

 

[rikrobson]

I used unibond filler. still working fine 18 months later

 

[B20]

I used unibond filler. still working fine 18 months later

Thanks, Is that Unibond "Repair metal for good" no. 360767

 

[lotus 30]

RS can supply devcon you can drill and tap that good stuff needs to be warm to go off.

 

[bricol]

Problem is normally getting the surface clean enough to allow whatever you bung on there to stick and seal, with a constant supply of oil above it. Accept the slight leak, and look for a replacement sump?

 

[rikrobson]

Thanks, Is that Unibond "Repair metal for good" no. 360767

Nope boddy filler. 5heres still an oil leak some where but it's maneageable

 

[rikrobson]

The plan is to get it off and clean as best I can the use hts 2000 for fill the crack

 

[jordan1]

^^^^ x2

 

[Bill Edwards]

If you're taking it off then you can easily make a permanent job.

Brake/clutch/parts cleaner (as it's called) is a must have for getting it clean of oil, nothing is better.
My choice to fill/cover the damage would be Q bond, follow the instructions and apply in layers (which take seconds to cure) and you'll quickly have a very, very solid repair far superior to anything like JB weld.

 

[brightspark]

RS can supply devcon you can drill and tap that good stuff needs to be warm to go off.

devcon jb and belzona all about on par

 

[lotus 30]

devcon jb and belzona all about on par

Devcon uses aluminium to bulk it up Belzona uses iron or something like that to bulk it up

 

[8ob]

Another vote for Qbond, worth keeping one in the workshop at all times.



Tutorial

 

[Mee]

Plastic Padding Chemical Metal, works on most things and has been around for years and stood the test of time.

Fixed most industrial equipment ranging from large cast gearboxes to car fuel tanks with it, you do need to prepare the surface correctly which would mean draining the sump, cleaning the leaking area, abrading it correctly, then applying the product. You mix it like car body filler and apply it quickly as it goes off quickly, and you can sand it flat.

 

[Mee]

devcon jb and belzona all about on par

Not seen Belzona for about 20 years, are they still going.

 

[Burdekin]

Not seen Belzona for about 20 years, are they still going.

We use them for coatings for pressure vessels and tanks.

 

[Crater Creator]

We use them for coatings for pressure vessels and tanks.

Yeah Belzona is still used worldwide in the oil industry for some pretty heavy-duty (and permanent) repairs. Not cheap though.

 

[rikrobson]

If you are going to use a filler do it on the out side in case a bit breaks off. Out don't want. That in your oil

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

@B20
Just a few questions?
Any indication why or how it has bean cracked?

Were is the crack?

Dos it look like t has bean stricken or hit by anything?

It could be a crack forming from the inside, a friend had a Vauxhall Fontana (please don't hate him for that) his sump had a weeping crack Were his had oxidised from inside out, on the cold oil level line.


The repair/bodge we did on the Fontana, it was a temp thing what lasted 2 years until a sump was acquired.

Drain the oil.
Clean up the area, we used a 36grit disc to do that.
Using a Demel thing (cheepo battery tool) we made a grove in the crack and put a dimple at each end. We hoped/ thought it will stop it from spreading. It did, but the rust made another crack on the other side.

Warming the area up with a paint stripper allowed us, using a thinner or brake cleaner soaked rag to get a lot of the oil out.

Then using a Halfords Chemical metal we applied a decent application over the crack. letting it fully cure.

Then we painted over it with a marine clear latex product. But I guess Varnish will do. We used what we had to hand.

Had a few beers and in the morning refilled with oil.

We found out why it had cracked.
I once split a Pug 104 sump by re fitting it wrong. Ok that was steel.

I have seen a repair on a Emergency Genny set, the sump had cracked, nothing with anyone dropping it Boss. No. No.

The repair was a trip of metal and a sheet of rubber and latex glue (Evo stick, other glues are available) and it was pop riveted on. Still going now.

 

[brightspark]

Not seen Belzona for about 20 years, are they still going.

yes bought some from car bootsale for a fiver and its in date normally 45 quid to buy

 

[Migmac]

One of the metal lines to the oil cooler on my L200 developed a hole at the weekend. Sounds like some of the products mentioned here would of patched it up until the replacement arrives