gas lense for a beginner?

[BrokenBiker]

would a beginner benefit from a gas lense kit when learning to tig weld or does it make little difference when you are still relatively crap?

 

[Wallace]

I used a lot of gas when I started, a gas lense would have saved some money due to the lower flow rate!

 

[BrokenBiker]

I used a lot of gas when I started, a gas lense would have saved some money due to the lower flow rate!

i wasnt really sure what a gas lense did apart from allow a longer stick out, which in my mind means its easier to see whats going on without a ceramic in the way but not really sure if im right or not...

 

[eSCHEn]

It gives what's poshly called a more laminar flow. The gas comes out nice and aligned, which gives the better coverage, tungsten protrusion and gas savings.

I found that when I switched to them my welds got better and my gas flow dropped.

 

[BrokenBiker]

It gives what's poshly called a more laminar flow. The gas comes out nice and aligned, which gives the better coverage, tungsten protrusion and gas savings.

I found that when I switched to them my welds got better and my gas flow dropped.

so they are worth it then? im not actually looking for a tig, but know a lad that has just bought a wse200 unit off fleabay and the torch that came with it only had one tungsten and one ceramic, he only bought it as a toy and didnt know what else to get so i mentioned gas lense kits but then thought maybe i should have checked here first

 

[eSCHEn]

No definitely worth it. 100%.

 

[BrokenBiker]

No definitely worth it. 100%.

will let him crack on and buy a kit then. he is usually messing around with various bikes and plans on eventually modifying his cb750 to a cafe racer, i think he wants to weld up oil tanks and the likes out of ally. he usually picks things up quickly but he has tried mig and didnt take to it too well so god knows how he will be with tig

 

[langy]

so they are worth it then? im not actually looking for a tig, but know a lad that has just bought a wse200 unit off fleabay and the torch that came with it only had one tungsten and one ceramic, he only bought it as a toy and didnt know what else to get so i mentioned gas lense kits but then thought maybe i should have checked here first

Absolutely worth it, better gas coverage, use less gas, it's a win win !!!

 

[BrokenBiker]

Langy, i have shown the lad your gasser build threads, he is of the impression that you are god himself...he is a huge hotrod fan but insists on using 'roadkill' as a benchmark

 

[langy]

Langy, i have shown the lad your gasser build threads, he is of the impression that you are god himself...he is a huge hotrod fan but insists on using 'roadkill' as a benchmark

Hahaha, roadkill eh, I don't watch that nonsense !!!

 

[BrokenBiker]

i do, but only for the burnouts and sound mostly. its annoying that the one guy is the owner of a powerboat design gig, but he bodges cars to the point where even i think they are bad

 

[God mode restorations]

A stubby gas lens kit is far better than the normal cups...helped me loads....

 

[BrokenBiker]

A stubby gas lens kit is far better than the normal cups...helped me loads....

Is that the one that gives you a small back cap to make the torch smaller?

 

[God mode restorations]

Is that the one that gives you a small back cap to make the torch smaller?

Yes..and you get short cups....It made a lot of difference when I changed over to one. ...I got mine from the USA but some of the chaps hear might no if there is a UK sorcerer. ..well worth the doe.

 

[Jim Davey]

Sorcerer, magic!

 

[Paul G]

Firstly there's the quality ones. These consist of multiple layers of gauze with wire O rings spacing them apart. Replaceable and brilliant.

Then the cheaponese crap with a single layer. Poo.

Then for the top notch super duper results, with much cheapness there's the home made donut of stainless wire wool inserted into the ceramic.


Just the wild ramblings of a tight old fool.


Paul G

 

[langy]

Is that the one that gives you a small back cap to make the torch smaller?

You can use a short back cap with anything, in my opinion you don't need a stubby if beginning to learn

 

[eSCHEn]

Then for the top notch super duper results, with much cheapness there's the home made donut of stainless wire wool inserted into the ceramic.

Fine or coarse Paul and do you need to twizzle it in a particular way?

Mine are looking a bit shabby in some cases and that sounds like my kind of price ^_^

 

[langy]

Fine or coarse Paul and do you need to twizzle it in a particular way?

Mine are looking a bit shabby in some cases and that sounds like my kind of price ^_^

The CK gas savers are very good, I'm down to 4lpm on normal stuff

 

[Paul G]

do you need to twizzle it in a particular way?

^_^

Roll it between the palms of your hands like you would a large bogy.

Squash lightly between thumb and forefinger and insert.