fitting a built in gas cooker

[johnakay]

are they easy to fit or do I have to get a gas man to fit it.?

 

[norlander]

Parachutist hurtling downwards meets man hurtling upwards- "Know owt about parachutes?" sez the 'chutist to t'other bloke "nah" sez other bloke "d'ya know owt about gas ovens"

 

[Wendelspanswick]

are they easy to fit or do I have to get a gas man to fit it.?

Pretty sure that the legislation says that it must be connected/disconnected by a Gas Safe registered engineer, in practice I do it myself and leak test with soapy water, even easier with bayonet fittings.

 

[marfyboy]

inbuilt hob has to be solid pipe unless the instructions say other wise. should be fitted by gas safe registered engineer. if it's your house you can fit it if you want, as long as it don't go bang!

 

[Kayos]

A free standing cooker may be removed and reconnected for cleaning, any new appliance, fixed or free standing must be fitted by a gas safe registered engineer.
New also covers second hand in a different property or location

You may think it's simple enough, but you may miss something an engineer will spot, plus you have come back if there is a problem

 

[Kayos]

inbuilt hob has to be solid pipe unless the instructions say other wise. should be fitted by gas safe registered engineer. if it's your house you can fit it if you want, as long as it don't go bang!

All inbuilt hobs have to be solid connection, and it's not ok to fit if it's in your own house, it's illegal

 

[marfyboy]

All inbuilt hobs have to be solid connection, and it's not ok to fit if it's in your own house, it's illegal

yes it is illegal if it goes bang and you are a non registered gas fitter, plumber, carpenter or what ever. but know one can stop you from working in your own house.
if you follow the manufactures instructions and is says you can fit flexi you can. if no instructions are available you follow bs6172

 

[Bobtail4x4]

ask your insurance company?

 

[Kent]

Its an cooker right as in Oven and hob together? there are other regs other than who is qualified to abide by, I should call someone if I were you

 

[johnik]

being a man of the world i thought i would/could fit my new oven when i moved,free fitting so let the man do it,he put a gauge on and adjusted the pressure that was miles out....glad i let the man do it really

 

[Turbo]

We just got a new gas hob fitted and you need to have a Gas Safe registered engineer install it. Our came fitted with mains gas jets and he had to change them to suit our bottled gas supply & then calibrate each ring, something only a proper engineer would be able to do.

The guy wouldn't sign off on the job as we hadn't done the tiling behind it and the dry lined plasterboard wall was a fire hazard. We have to call him when the tiling is done & he'll come back & give us the certificate.

 

[Kayos]

yes it is illegal if it goes bang and you are a non registered gas fitter, plumber, carpenter or what ever. but know one can stop you from working in your own house.
if you follow the manufactures instructions and is says you can fit flexi you can. if no instructions are available you follow bs6172

True, no one can stop you unless the worse happens, doesn't mean it's right tho

Bs6172 just refers to second hand appliances in general, and actually doesn't say you can use a flexi on a hob. If you would like to get into quoting regs I can go grab my hard copies complete with guidance notes?

In a previous job I dealt with incidents, both CO and diy jobs that had gone wrong, it's very different standing in the remains of someone's kitchen to saying "it's ok unless it goes bang" because when it does the smell of burnt flesh is something you never actually forget

 

[Tigman]

Gas safe all the way , and soapy water is a no no as far as I know , they sell proper solution for the job now or a spray version !

 

[Kayos]

Soapy water corrodes the pipes, washing up liquid more so, even proper LDF needs to be cleaned off after use

 

[roofman]

Old proverb...iff you need to fit your own cooker or hob then fit it and then come and tell or man cant cook tea or dinner because of fear or nightmares

 

[waddycall]

Plasterboard isn't non combustible as it degrades with heat.

Free standing cookers need a stabilising bracket to comply with regs. Gas engineers are under a lot of scrutiny and carry out a pretty stressful job with a lot of responsibility. When inspection time comes they want to know the jobs they've done are all above board and comply with all necessary regs.

 

[Wedg1e]

My take on 'safety-critical' installations is that I prefer to do it myself where possible, because whilst I may make a mistake and die in my bed, my family will only have me to blame and not whoever else got it wrong... because even 'competent persons' make mistakes.
Fitted a gas fire: needed to adjust the gas pressure and check for leaks so bought a manometer... that came in useful on the two combi boilers I fitted as well. Still haven't died in my sleep, the ozone layer is intact and no kittens have been harmed that I'm aware of.
Same with electrics: it's actually difficult to buy the wrong materials and it doen't take much research to find out which widgets to use for what. I always think that those who bodge electrics have done 90% of the work, they might as well have put in the extra 10% and done the job properly.
Funny, isn't it: most people don't bat an eyelid if you say you've stripped and rebuilt the brakes on your car but anything else that can kill you is open to 'expert' opinion...

 

[Kayos]

The pressure selling of those stupid anti tilt devices is well out of order, a £2 chain is perfectly adequate.

Fitting fires and boilers? Take the risk if you like, knowing how to do a tightness test and read a working pressure is about 0.01% of what a gas fitter does, what about flue flow continuity or co ratio or burner pressure or the mandatory checks on flues and vents, most people assume gas leaks are the biggest issue when working on gas, they are a part of it but flueing and ventilation is much bigger and more complicated and more likely to be done wrong by someone who isn't qualified

 

[johnakay]

I was going to fit the cooker and have the gasman connect it but it doesn't look like that I can.
better to be safe than sorry so I'll get the gasman to fit it.
the hob will be separate and sit on top of the work top and cooker underneath.
anyway thanks for the replies apart from the smart a*ss on the 1st post...
Parachutist hurtling downwards meets man hurtling upwards- "Know owt about parachutes?" sez the 'chutist to t'other bloke "nah" sez other bloke "d'ya know owt about gas ovens"
Hey norlander, how about you stick to pickles and fleas in lime buckets, or whatever other comments that make no sense? There is no call for that.
so may I salute you...

 

[Wedg1e]

Fitting fires and boilers? Take the risk if you like, knowing how to do a tightness test and read a working pressure is about 0.01% of what a gas fitter does, what about flue flow continuity or co ratio or burner pressure or the mandatory checks on flues and vents, most people assume gas leaks are the biggest issue when working on gas, they are a part of it but flueing and ventilation is much bigger and more complicated and more likely to be done wrong by someone who isn't qualified

Appreciated. That said, one imagines that the installation instructions that come with the appliances must be intended to be comprehensive, so as long as you follow all the steps you must get it somewhere near right?