sentinel x800 cleaner

[angellonewolf]

sentinel x800 cleaner says 1 hour before cleaning

i know we got a few plumbers on here how long can i put it in before cleaning id like to leave it a week realy it says 1 hour but at temp

can i leave in for longer ?

 

[Kayos]

X800 is aggressive stuff, it also foams as it's designed to be used with a flush machine

Really wouldn't recommend using it, Fernox F3 is better

 

[Kram]

I always look up the SDS for chemicals, often because the active chemical is just a cheap off the shelf one in an expensive bottle. In this case, theres nothing relevant in it. It seems your buying soapy water. Theres a few variations, one has no hazardous ingredients listed, and the other has a weak acid 5% acid solution.

 

[Kayos]

I always look up the SDS for chemicals, often because the active chemical is just a cheap off the shelf one in an expensive bottle. In this case, theres nothing relevant in it. It seems your buying soapy water. Theres a few variations, one has no hazardous ingredients listed, and the other has a weak acid 5% acid solution.

Doesn't have to be hazardous to work, in fact the best cleaners are less aggressive, it's how the system is cleaned that matters

 

[brightspark]

stick a cleaner in and after a days running drain system take radiators off and flush them out with a hosepipe. refit and fill system with inhibitor

 

[angellonewolf]

most of the pipe work is new ish ive put new rads in the whole house only a few years ago so id like to think most part of it to be ok

X800 is aggressive stuff, it also foams as it's designed to be used with a flush machine

Really wouldn't recommend using it, Fernox F3 is better

wont work with out a cleaning mechine ?

stick a cleaner in and after a days running drain system take radiators off and flush them out with a hosepipe. refit and fill system with inhibitor

what drain system thats why im doing the last rad its the lowest in the place but been told by plumber do a system clean he only fitted acombi 8 years ago and ive kept the tf1 clean and kept up with services

spent 700 over this winter with a new valve x2 new pump and new 2nde heat exchanger

so am doing the last rad adding a couple drain points and doing system clean at the same time

 

[Parm]

Doesn't have to be hazardous to work, in fact the best cleaners are less aggressive, it's how the system is cleaned that matters

This is the correct advice

 

[Parm]

stick a cleaner in and after a days running drain system take radiators off and flush them out with a hosepipe. refit and fill system with inhibitor

This is what everyone wants to hear

 

[hunter27]

sentinel x800 cleaner says 1 hour before cleaning

i know we got a few plumbers on here how long can i put it in before cleaning id like to leave it a week realy it says 1 hour but at temp

can i leave in for longer ?

From the Sentinel web page for X800-

To clean an older system in accordance with BS 7593 it is recommended that this product is used with powerflushing equipment. In this scenario, administer Sentinel X800 Fast Acting Cleaner via the powerflushing equipment, following the equipment manufacturer's instructions. Alternatively, circulate the product (preferably at normal operating temperature, with all valves open and the pump turned to maximum flow) for a minimum period of 1 hour or until satisfactory performance is restored.

 

[brightspark]

This is what everyone wants to hear

if a jobs worth doing do it right. especially if the systems getting on a bit and some of the rad valves have never been turned off and the glands on rad valves weep and can be replaced at the same time

 

[angellonewolf]

if a jobs worth doing do it right. especially if the systems getting on a bit and some of the rad valves have never been turned off and the glands on rad valves weep and can be replaced at the same time

system is old but 90 percent of the pipe work has been replaced as well as all the rads they are only a few years old so im thinking a clean should do it well

 

[vw1]

Also get a MAGNACLEAN in your life.

 

[angellonewolf]

got one f1 compact

 

[brightspark]

system is old but 90 percent of the pipe work has been replaced as well as all the rads they are only a few years old so im thinking a clean should do it well

yep thats fine then

 

[angellonewolf]

quick question i need to cut out the last part of the old heating system was a bodge in the first place but was done 40 years ago so cant realy conplain

dead ends in a water system i know is a bad thing what about in heating systems ?

 

[angellonewolf]

 

[brightspark]

its not a problem using a 2 pipe system capping one off only a problem if a single pipe system then it would need joining its just the same as shutting a radiator off at the valve

 

[Kayos]

It can cause issues but very unlikely

Always best practice to cut as close to the tee as you can

 

[angellonewolf]

its not a problem using a 2 pipe system capping one off only a problem if a single pipe system then it would need joining its just the same as shutting a radiator off at the valve

It can cause issues but very unlikely

Always best practice to cut as close to the tee as you can

thanks both of you just a quick cheak

 

[hunter27]

Don't know your system but it might be a good place to have a drain cock or 2 instead of caps.