Energy prices.

[Onoff]

Rather than getting my heating oil via Boiler Juice I'm thinking it may be cheaper to take the tank in the garden to the local Shell station!

 

[Onoff]

Oil off now but for HW. Sitting in the lounge now with a 2kW fan heater on.

I didn't think I'd become one of those old folk, living in one room, quite so soon.

 

[MattF]

I look at it this way. Whilst ever I can afford the bill, I'll be damned if I'm going to be any of cold, mucky or uncomfortable/limited. Flat needs heating, laundry & I need washing, & then there's workshop time. I'll sacrifice non of those unless I must, (but even then the cleanliness bit would apply regardless).

 

[Morrisman]

Oil off now but for HW. Sitting in the lounge now with a 2kW fan heater on.

I didn't think I'd become one of those old folk, living in one room, quite so soon.

Heating, or eating? That's the choice lots of pensioners face, even before these ridiculous price rises to come.

I really don't see how anybody could survive on the state pension.

 

[AVI_8]

Got this non welcome email today
Standing charge for elec is more than doubling with Shell who I was transferred to when Pure Planet went bust.
Not enough competition now, can’t see any other reason for such an increase in standing charge other than profiteering

 

[Onoff]

Sorry but WTF!

92p/L tonight for heating oil. I'm at a loss...

Whew! Got a quote of 76p/L

 

[AVI_8]

Whew! Got a quote of 76p/L

Grab it while you can, can’t see things changing for the positive in the near future.
Hopefully by next winter times will have changed for the positive.

 

[AVI_8]

I’ve come to the conclusion that no loft insulation in a 100 year old house is not do-able any longer, another project for the summer, also need to gather and chop a load more firewood, hopefully by starting the log burner at 4pm will convince her indoors that at least one warm room will be acceptable and I can turn the thermostat down from 18 to 16 for the remainder rooms, might be able to reduce my gas bills by 25%
It‘s getting a bit silly now, heating bill is now half my mortgage cost, I feel so lucky I can afford it.
Can only imagine what problems this is going to cause families and pensioners next winter if things don’t get back to some degree of normality.

 

[Kayos]

I look at it this way. Whilst ever I can afford the bill, I'll be damned if I'm going to be any of cold, mucky or uncomfortable/limited. Flat needs heating, laundry & I need washing, & then there's workshop time. I'll sacrifice non of those unless I must, (but even then the cleanliness bit would apply regardless).

Well put, it needs a pragmatic approach. I'm not going to be cold and worry about the price, I will be warm and worry about the bill later

 

[Morrisman]

Grab it while you can, can’t see things changing for the positive in the near future.
Hopefully by next winter times will have changed for the positive.

I shall be calling Flogas on Monday to tell them to top up my bulk propane tank. I'm down to 40%, from the max 85% that will go in. It's taken 10 months to use that much, but I'd rather fill it now than wait until they whack up the prices, like the electric rip off merchants are doing.

I'd not be surprised if they make a whole wealth of excuses to delay it until April....

 

[AVI_8]

Well put, it needs a pragmatic approach. I'm not going to be cold and worry about the price, I will be warm and worry about the bill later

Me too, my log burner kicks out a hell of a heat

 

[Onoff]

Even the pub landlady hadn't lit the second fire as she wasn't expecting many customers last night. Figured she'd save the logs that will likely now be at a premium as people locally revert to wood burners.

 

[eLuSiVeMiTe]

That's the price going up again

 

[gaz1]

I’ve come to the conclusion that no loft insulation in a 100 year old house is not do-able any longer, another project for the summer, also need to gather and chop a load more firewood, hopefully by starting the log burner at 4pm will convince her indoors that at least one warm room will be acceptable and I can turn the thermostat down from 18 to 16 for the remainder rooms, might be able to reduce my gas bills by 25%
It‘s getting a bit silly now, heating bill is now half my mortgage cost, I feel so lucky I can afford it.
Can only imagine what problems this is going to cause families and pensioners next winter if things don’t get back to some degree of normality.

do the insulation in spring not summer

you will sweat like a pig up there in summer due to the heat on your roof

its also the most uncomfortable place to be in while fitting insulation in a closed space when fitting to the front of your roof edges

lifespan of materials

Composite insulation is non biodegradable
Just as bad as plastic and theres no recycling that stuff as of yet !
just wait for the recycling bill to hit the homeowner at the moment its landfill only

for outside and inside wall composite + roof or floor insulation
30 years or more. It will probably require a bit of TLC by this time, including painting every 10 years, but the insulation itself will not degrade.

glass insulation
loft and floor insulation 100 years down the line. Floor insulation is made from the same material and there’s no reason why it won’t also last a very long time.

for wall insulation been discused on here

Cavity insulation

We are going to renew our heating installation in the coming weeks,our oil boiler is 34+ years old,so done well,oil. The type we choose is partially guided by the government RHI,however one condition is compulsory cavity insulation,I’ve only heard bad reports of this and am sure in principle it...

www.mig-welding.co.uk

 

[JMS1972]

One litre of oil contains over 10kWh of energy. Even at 90p/litre oil should be cheaper than leccy - unless you are lucky enough to still be on a fixed tariff?

I had the same thought as I use diesel rather than a fan heater to heat my workshop. Glad you did the maths before I had to..

Maybe the trade off is heating one room rather than whole house, but in that case decent Thermostatic radiator valves could improve that...

If I could get heating oil in small quantities I'd use that.

 

[gaz1]

I had the same thought as I use diesel rather than a fan heater to heat my workshop. Glad you did the maths before I had to..

Maybe the trade off is heating one room rather than whole house, but in that case decent Thermostatic radiator valves could improve that...

the trade off between heating one room or the house is wrong unless your bedroom is above the heated room

whilst the outside maybe colder the rooms that are not heated are causing cold walls internally

toilet breaks and its time for a drink moment moves some of that hot air into a cold enviroment also a good way of causing damp internally due to high heat hitting cold air the subject of rain clouds and hills produce this naturally

 

[Blobber]

We cant do much more with what weve got to work with so im just keeping my head in the sand hoping it will all be better soon!

 

[ajlelectronics]

Maybe the trade off is heating one room rather than whole house, but in that case decent Thermostatic radiator valves could improve that...

That depends... I have to go around the house twice a week resetting the TRVs which have been wound wide open by 'indoors.

 

[JMS1972]

That depends... I have to go around the house twice a week resetting the TRVs which have been wound wide open by 'indoors.

I've invested in Hive ones which can be monitored and set via an app.

Pretty sure they'll pay for themselves pretty quickly.

 

[ajlelectronics]

I've invested in Hive ones which can be monitored and set via an app.

Pretty sure they'll pay for themselves pretty quickly.

My valves in the other house could have the knob fitted to any rotational position, so she always thought that they were flat out. The ones here cannot be fudged like that though.