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Why feel betrayed? There are quite a few sportspeople I follow whose politics don't align with mine. No need to get bent out of shape about it. It doesn't diminish their sporting achievements in any way.
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Because it is a sport and while some of my favourite sportsmen might have some talent I admire, that does not extend to their virtue signalling nonsense. It spoils the spectacle which should be entertainment, not moralising or a party political broadcast.
On top of that, they are all so well paid they really have no idea what life is like in the real world these days. They have no authority to preach at me, nor do they really consider what the effect might be of the second hand philosophy someone is feeding them.
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You have the inalienable right to be offended, or upset, or annoyed or whatever, should you choose to do or be so. Lewis Hamilton also has the right to use his position as an agent for change. What you want to see is the curtailment of the rights of LH (or anyone else who you happen to disagree with) to propose their agenda. You want selective free speech, in effect.
As regards 'living in the real world', have you ever considered what it might be like to 'live in the black world' ? This is a cut and paste from the BBC article linked above. It says it far more eloquently than I ever could:
His Mercedes team boss Toto Wolff says:
“He asked me once, ‘Have you ever had the active thought that you are white?’ And I replied, ‘I have never thought about it.’ He said, ‘I think about it [the fact I’m black] every day.’
“That was a year or two ago, and it triggered a profound reflection within me, because we as a majority white people in European countries, you never think about it.
Imagine you enter the paddock and you are the only white person and how difficult that would be. I guess it would make you think about your skin colour every day. And if you add abuse and racism to the whole equation, it becomes unbearable. This is what he and many others around the world are facing every day.”
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You go too far. I have a perfect right to like or dislike someone. Your argument suggests I have to like this virtue signalling nonsense or be accused of denying free speech? That is illogical nonsense. As for "rights" you will be surprised at what "rights" anyone has (in law) to make a political statement from a wholly owned platform like a sports stadium or a racetrack. The owner(s) of those facilities may or may not allow their private properties to be used for any purpose. We digress.
Your argument is that if you do not actively support one sort of protest movement you are therefore a <censored>. That is patently nonsense too but I appreciate this is the narrative which the mainstream media are pumping out non stop. It is difficult to resist unless you stop to think and read between the lines of what mainstream media and big tech have decided you are allowed to be told.
There is a problem with certain ethnic groups who choose to live in European countries. Those are typically problems with integration and social depravation. Those two problems are not disconnected. I do not agree the answer to those issues is protest leading to anarchy and violence. That course of action is politically motivated and these manufactured identity politics is the weapon of choice. Divide and conquer.
Finally, you should be careful in making wildly inaccurate assumptions about an alias. I am not European for a start...
Your argument is that if you do not actively support one sort of protest movement you are therefore a <censored>. That is patently nonsense too but I appreciate this is the narrative which the mainstream media are pumping out non stop. It is difficult to resist unless you stop to think and read between the lines of what mainstream media and big tech have decided you are allowed to be told.
There is a problem with certain ethnic groups who choose to live in European countries. Those are typically problems with integration and social depravation. Those two problems are not disconnected. I do not agree the answer to those issues is protest leading to anarchy and violence. That course of action is politically motivated and these manufactured identity politics is the weapon of choice. Divide and conquer.
Finally, you should be careful in making wildly inaccurate assumptions about an alias. I am not European for a start...
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I can't help but wonder if LH will expect Betty to 'take the knee' when she's doing the sword wielding thing? 
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One of the greatest drivers that has ever lived no doubt about that .
As far as a fellow human not in my list of favourites'
As far as a fellow human not in my list of favourites'
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Your original post inferred that you did not want LH to make his BLM protest; so do you not want him to take the knee or do you just want to have a good winge about it? If the latter, vent away. I agree - you have a perfect right to like or dislike someone.
Incorrect. I do not expect you to support his protest, but I would expect anyone to accept that he has a right to make that protest. If you don't agree with him, that is also cool, but you don't shut down protest.
You clearly prefer a compliant, Uncle Sam type of sportsman. Don't rock the boat, maintain the status quo. Lewis Hamilton is not that kind of person, in case you were wondering.
I made no such assumptions. Show me where you thought I did. The only thing I know about you is that you live in London.
How about entering the Paddock and you are the only 8 times F1 World Champion?
They only face this as people keep mentioning it.
Let's be honest if 3 people mugged you and you were asked to describe them. 1 is white and two are Black. One is fat and two are thin.
Is it ok to say the fat one hit me?
Then is it ok to say the white one hit me or is it racist?
This is the problem........when it's not really a problem but it's made into one.
LH is a rarity in F1 in that he didn't come from money or motor sport history. If you admire him as driver then his personal agenda doesn't change that. The only reason to stress about people preaching to you is if you decide to listen to what they say. If you are going follow someone then you are sucking yourself into their world.
Many high profile celebs use their status to leverage something they see as important. Lewis is probably the first F1 driver to be doing it so publicly and at a time where it's high focus.
If you are a fan of LH as a driver there is no reason why you can't watch the practice,watch the qualifying,watch the race then switch off. You'd have to be very naive to think that if you follow him on social media he is only going to be talking about tyre choices and race strategy.
Many high profile celebs use their status to leverage something they see as important. Lewis is probably the first F1 driver to be doing it so publicly and at a time where it's high focus.
If you are a fan of LH as a driver there is no reason why you can't watch the practice,watch the qualifying,watch the race then switch off. You'd have to be very naive to think that if you follow him on social media he is only going to be talking about tyre choices and race strategy.
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First of many i suspect.
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And that's with Nomex, imagine what it'd be like without that protection. 
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AbsolutelyAnd that's with Nomex, imagine what it'd be like without that protection.
Someone was watching over him on the day of the accident!
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