Sold a `not fit for purpose ` car ?????

winchman · Jun 22, 2018

The choice of fix or reject is yours not his I would return it asap, if you are an AA member don't they offer some legal advise?

fixerupper · Jun 22, 2018

Yep , It looks like a tidy car , but there are lots of clean X types for sale of that age .. take your time and find the right one, best of luck with it ..

daedalusminos · Jun 22, 2018

I'd get rid of it, most likely a trade in or auction purchase... Both come with potential problems. Best would be a genuine private sale. But with a dealer you have certain rights....time to start using them.

dannyp · Jun 22, 2018

If buyingnused cars of that age off a dealer may as well just go to the auction and buy it yourself.

May still go bang but at least it was cheeper and at least you know it wasent the one pulled through on a rope

8ob · Jun 22, 2018

I think with the complexity of modern cars it pays to buy from a main dealer whether new or second hand. They have the gear to repair, normally have a robust warranty in place and they cant disappear like the Arthur Daileys backstreet brigade. Its normally these scallywags that buy the rubbish thats not wanted on the forecourts , a quick valet, backstreet MOT, a mate to knock out all the warning lights and clear codes, advert and wait for a mug/punter to purchase.

Bob

rcx132 · Jun 22, 2018

8ob said:
I think with the complexity of modern cars it pays to buy from a main dealer whether new or second hand. They have the gear to repair, normally have a robust warranty in place and they cant disappear like the Arthur Daileys backstreet brigade. Its normally these scallywags that buy the rubbish thats not wanted on the forecourts , a quick valet, backstreet MOT, a mate to knock out all the warning lights and clear codes, advert and wait for a mug/punter to purchase.

Bob

Only dealers can also struggle and you can be without your car for a long time while they scratch their head trying to fix things. I only ever once bought used from a dealer, did have problems, and they weren't covered by the warranty.

My attitude now is to have two older cars. Yes they are less reliable, but by having two one is always working and I still end up quids in. The other issue I have with new cars is I quickly destroy them. Dog, kids, equipment being moved for hobby or work projects... they quickly get devalued so I won't by new or even new'ish cars.

Nomad · Jun 22, 2018

8ob said:
I think with the complexity of modern cars it pays to buy from a main dealer whether new or second hand. They have the gear to repair...

My experience is they have to follow a set "fix it" guide for each fault, often just a case of replacing items in sequence until the fault goes away.
This soon gets expensive if you're paying for their time and several major parts that were never faulty, before they change the part that is faulty.
For dealers, time = money, it's quicker (ie cheaper !) for them to swap likely parts out rather than attempt detailed fault testing of very complicated units.

Ruffian · Jun 22, 2018

8ob said:
I think with the complexity of modern cars it pays to buy from a main dealer whether new or second hand. They have the gear to repair, normally have a robust warranty in place and they cant disappear like the Arthur Daileys backstreet brigade. Its normally these scallywags that buy the rubbish thats not wanted on the forecourts , a quick valet, backstreet MOT, a mate to knock out all the warning lights and clear codes, advert and wait for a mug/punter to purchase.

Bob

That's why I still like doing my own damaged repairable's.
Approx 50% of a straight one so can run it into the ground and then bin/brake it.

keithski122 · Jun 22, 2018

I've bought three cars from second hand car salesmen (and one trade in from where I worked) and all have been great.I do have a few rules for myself when buying though, nothing over 80k on the clock,nothing over 8 years old and the main rule, nothing british, french or german.This last rule really only leaves japanese cars, its a good rule which has served me well.
Edit, I also only spend around the £3k mark.

8ob · Jun 22, 2018

rcx132 said:
Only dealers can also struggle and you can be without your car for a long time while they scratch their head trying to fix things. I only ever once bought used from a dealer, did have problems, and they weren't covered by the warranty.

My attitude now is to have two older cars. Yes they are less reliable, but by having two one is always working and I still end up quids in. The other issue I have with new cars is I quickly destroy them. Dog, kids, equipment being moved for hobby or work projects... they quickly get devalued so I won't by new or even new'ish cars.

I can understand that , for every day road smokers I plump for old school diesel, preferably with a timing chain and no electronics but I fear their days are numbered.

Nomad said:
My experience is they have to follow a set "fix it" guide for each fault, often just a case of replacing items in sequence until the fault goes away.
This soon gets expensive if you're paying for their time and several major parts that were never faulty, before they change the part that is faulty.
For dealers, time = money, it's quicker (ie cheaper !) for them to swap likely parts out rather than attempt detailed fault testing of very complicated units.

Bad news travels fast and I dont think main dealers play games when it comes to warranty backup. They may well go about a repair in an expensive change things until its fixed manner but who cares when its under warranty?

Bob

bigegg · Jun 22, 2018

I thought of this thread earlier today as I was driving down the m57 from southport heading back to leeds.
Passed a black 2.0D x-type jag billowing out clouds of black smoke.

Hope it wasn't @W.olly ?

my experience on 2nd hand cars:
buy cheap, buy often or buy expensive and spend often.

or buy a lexus, and just enjoy it!
Mine is 19 years old this year. 186,000 miles. Owned for 6 years, and I paid 600 quid for it.
Passes MOT first time, every time
NEVER needs anything doing - except service items.
And it drives better than gf's brand new Ford Galaxy, or miniegg's brand new nissan qashqai

slim_boy_fat · Jun 22, 2018

Take it back, cancel the finance & start the search again. Bit of a ball ache, but the world's full of cars for sale.

fixerupper · Jun 22, 2018

Yeah I agree...Bit of a Gallagher ?....you are gonna have to explain that bit of rhyming slang Slimboy ....

W.olly · Jun 22, 2018

You know if you can read this its a stary a si am darn saef hLf and kmackered after a 16hr day but luvin it .

I would say 98% of folk have dais get rid. Yep i luv tje car but hey ho poop happpe s.

Oh yes rje twonkwr of a dealer jasnr been in touch so on monday i wilm call the finance compnay and get rid.

If i cN find anorjer near as dam the same i will go for it. Or a Volvo vv50.

I have read all your replies so appreciated it. Ha i just seen predictive text.

If you cant read it please pm me for translation lol.

octo0072000 · Jun 22, 2018

bit far old school 40mpg rare now VW inline 6 engine lot of room in the back

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volvo-94...987870?hash=item2aac38281e:g:m9UAAOSwCHBbJjBj

slim_boy_fat · Jun 22, 2018

fixerupper said:
Yeah I agree...Bit of a Gallagher ?....you are gonna have to explain that bit of rhyming slang Slimboy ....

Bloody predictive text!! :mad:

Now corrected.

angellonewolf · Jun 22, 2018

W.olly said:
You know if you can read this its a stary a si am darn saef hLf and kmackered after a 16hr day but luvin it .

I would say 98% of folk have dais get rid. Yep i luv tje car but hey ho poop happpe s.

Oh yes rje twonkwr of a dealer jasnr been in touch so on monday i wilm call the finance compnay and get rid.

If i cN find anorjer near as dam the same i will go for it. Or a Volvo vv50.

I have read all your replies so appreciated it. Ha i just seen predictive text.

If you cant read it please pm me for translation lol.

i can read this mostly its surprising what your mind can put together

DaveB · Jun 23, 2018

Nomad said:
My experience is they have to follow a set "fix it" guide for each fault, often just a case of replacing items in sequence until the fault goes away.

I have the ford dealer servicing info and that's exactly how it is written.
It's not a time equals money issue for the dealer, if they don't follow the manufacturer procedure they don't get their costs back for warranty work.
Good dealer technicians are priceless because they look beyond the immediate fault having been "round the houses" before and wasted time to rectify a fault.

fixerupper · Jun 23, 2018

slim_boy_fat said:
Bloody predictive text!! Now corrected.

That is brilliant :clapping:

, I'm thinking ...Noel Gallagher , Oasis , Gallagher & Lyle , Tate & Lyle ....Gosh this is a tricky one :clapping:

.....

HughF · Jun 23, 2018

Shouldn't the title of this thread be 'i bought a not fit for purpose car'?

No-one forced you to sign on the line...

As for that air filter, did you give the car a thorough inspection beforehand? You sound like you know what you are doing with mechanicals...

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