Spot lights / 'driving' lights & indicators.

  1. bill_gj

    bill_gj Tired and irritable

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    Car keen Miggers - can you educate me?

    There's a lot of recent-ish models which have the spot/fog/driving light coming on i concert with the indicators.
    To an old git like me, this seems complete boll@x. What's the point?

    I can't believe its a legislative requirement; where did it come from?
     
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  2. Kayos

    Kayos Member

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    I had a van that did it, no idea why and I only knew it did because someone moved ot for me on a job
     
  3. garethp Forum Supporter

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    Its supposed to help you see round corners, IMO it makes no difference.
     
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  4. jimbo84 Member

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    Some of them work from a turn of the wheel, it's to throw a little bit of light onto where you're turning.
     
  5. Bullet2012

    Bullet2012 Member

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    It’s another stupid idea, like daylight running lights that do not put the rear lights on as well. Pointless.

    probably implemented by the same person that thought smart motorways are a good idea
     
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  6. Cobbler

    Cobbler Codger bodger

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    I asked a garage about this when in for an MOT, the boss told me he understood it was because so many of the modern cars have the indicator as integral with headlight cluster & cant be seen when the headlights & day running lights are on. I find it very disconcerting when a car comes towards you & the lights start going on & off. The trouble is, I think people think it’s ok I don’t have to use the indicators now, the lights show what I’m doing.
     
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  7. Cobbler

    Cobbler Codger bodger

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    But they work during the daytime.
     
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  8. Paul.

    Paul. Moderator Staff Member

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    Downright dangerous in my opinion, last week a car I was following pulled out thinking another driver had flashed him out, I cant believe its legal
     
  9. kcchan Member

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    It doesn’t really help but I’ve stopped flashing people to let people out, I just stop now. I think too many headlights now have such a sharp cut off, its hard to tell what’s flashing and what’s just a bump in the road.

    My car does have adaptive headlights that will put lights on when I turn my wheel but it is only the one side.
     
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  10. Paul.

    Paul. Moderator Staff Member

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    I've never flashed the lights either, If I'm letting someone out I'll make eye contact with them and then hand gesture.
     
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  11. brightspark

    brightspark Member

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    that might answer a question I have ,van has built in lower driving lamps when I come out of my drive and go back in turning a few bends they go on and off by themselves .didn't know why and cheesed me off a bit. that answers it
     
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  12. voipio Member

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    Some of the "into the turn foglights" can be turned off in the vehicle menu system. They're a pain in the posterior. I often think they have a light off, so likely to be a badly maintained vehicle, during a turn.
     
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  13. brightspark

    brightspark Member

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    I just wanted to put mine on when I want nothing fancy. god knows where half the stuff to operate the gizmos are :dontknow:
     
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  14. Mike B Member

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    So there's two separate things here:

    Firstly, as people have said, cornering lights are where the side fog light comes on as you turn the steering wheel. It's a cheap version of some off the cars which have "active headlights" which actually pivot lef/right when you steer. I had them on a volvo and they were actually quite effective.

    Secondly, DRL's (Daytime Running Lights, mandatory since 2011) are quite bright and have a tendency to reduce the effectiveness of the indicators, so when the car indicates, the DRL on that side of the vehicle is momentarily switched off until the indicator is switched off. After that, DRLs resume.
     
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  15. Fazerruss

    Fazerruss Member

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    I noticed it on the wifes skoda. At first I thought one of the bulbs had gone. I don't see the point as she was reversing out of the drive to the right and the corresponding front fog light came on then turned off when moving forward????:confused:
     
  16. -Matt- Member

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    Whereever possible (so when I have sidelights or main lights on) I flash my foglights to indicate someone may pull out or to say thank you as I feel I don't want to dazzle someone with the highbeams. This is irrelevent of the fact that for some reason I appear to be able to flash only the right hand one if I want, or right then left if I pull further.
     
  17. Mike B Member

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    That's because its purpose is to illuminate whilst cornering, not whilst driving in straight lines. Your normal headlights do that job.
     
  18. voipio Member

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    That is effectively an admission of guilt by the manufacturers, that DRLs obscure other objects, be they indicators, pedestrians, cyclists ...
     
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  19. Mike B Member

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    DRLs were designed to make vehicles more conspicuous as owners are now seemingly no longer competent enough to use appropriate lighting based on the conditions. For that reason, legislation took the decision out of idiot drivers' hands. DRLs obscure the indicators as the two are based in the same housing and DRL is brighter than the indicator. I wouldn't say they obscure pedestrians or cyclists. That said, pedestrians should be on pavements, or wearing Hi Vis if on the highway. Cyclists should be wearing Hi Vis and have the option of using lights too.
     
  20. Fazerruss

    Fazerruss Member

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    She was reversing, so this feature is pointless on this occasion.
    You want to see where your going not where you've been.
     
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