New tig/mma welder

  1. SwissTony Member

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    Trying to pick out my first stick welder and would like the ability to tig weld at some point.

    I have come up with a list of potentials and would like opinions from you lovely people.

    1. Thermal arc 175 te
    2. Se version of above.
    3. Rtech TIG160PDC
    4. Parweld xts 163 or 202
    Budget is £450
    Any other suggestions?
     
  2. 123hotchef Member

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    What are you going to be welding
     
  3. SwissTony Member

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    Steel, don't have the need to do any aluminium.
     
  4. 123hotchef Member

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    What type and thickness. Has it got to be a new machine
     
  5. SwissTony Member

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    Up to 5mm.
    I would rather a new machine for the warranty.

     
  6. 123hotchef Member

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    Any of the above will do you nicely
     
  7. Hood

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    If wanting to do Tig then I would suggest that you go for a Tig machine rather than a stick machine that has Tig capability.
    The main difference between the two will be the true Tig machine will have HF start, torch and probably pedal connections and a gas valve.
    A stick machine capable of doing Tig will likely be scratch or possibly Lift start and will not have connections for torch buttons or pedals and would probably also require a valved torch.
     
  8. Hood

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    Just to clarify, the ThermalArc models you have listed,
    TE is a tig machine and can do stick
    SE is a stick machine and can do basic Tig.
    Both Parwelds you have listed are Stick machines that can do basic Tig.
    Parweld uses the XTS designation for stick machines and XTT for Tig machines.
     
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  9. 123hotchef Member

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    the TE is the one to get ;-) lift tig will suck!
     
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  10. Ruffian Member

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    The r tech is a good bit of kit and they sometimes have shop soiled ones and will come in under budget (circa £390)
     
  11. SwissTony Member

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    Tig is not critical, but I guess hf start is the way to go.
    R-tech with foot pedal or the TA 175 TE with no pedal connection?
    I have never used a tig welder before if that makes any difference.
     
  12. 123hotchef Member

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    foot pedal would be great for ali probably not so critcal for steel,
     
  13. Ruffian Member

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    Wouldn't worry about a pedal for steel or stainless.

    Alloy is where it is more necessary but even then not compulsory.
     
  14. Hood

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    Lots of people find it is a necessity for Aluminium but I have never found a need for a pedal and I would say at least 50% of my Tig is Alu, before I had the pulse Mig I would say 80%
    I never use a pedal and for the type of work I do I would find it an inconvenience as I am never sitting down and quite often not at a bench.
    Having said that it is definitely a personal preference and lots of people will have the opposite view.
     
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    cianh91 Member

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    Ta 175te is brilliant honestly iv mine years iv dropped it and abused it and it’s never faulted me. The hf start is worth the extra over an se model I upgraded to ac/dc and still wouldn’t get rid of mine gets threw in the van for any site work the doesn’t require the genset
     
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  16. waddycall

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    I have a TA 175 te. Had it for years. It’s a lovely welder. Great stick welder and as nice to use on tig as the pricey murex I used to use at work from time to time. I originally had the se which I really liked but wanted the HF start and gas valve for tig.
     
  17. SwissTony Member

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    Looks like it's the 175 te I will be going for.
    Bohler aws e6013 electrodes OK, I have some overhead stuff to do, not sure if that's the correct one for the job.
     
  18. Hood

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    The boatyard beside me got some Bohler 6013's in recently and the two welders there were raving about how nice they were, should have grabbed a couple to try :D
     
  19. SwissTony Member

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    Took the plunge and bought the TA 175 TE and some 2.5 and 3.2mm bohler E6013 rods. I have got to make a framework for a platform and attach some basic handrails Blurb for the rods says they are OK for vertical down which I assume I will be doing to attach handrails using fillet welds. Do I run the rods at 45 degrees and point the rods up at 10 to 20 degrees? I will be practicing on scrap first.
     
  20. arther dailey Member

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    You wont regret it, bought mine second hand, great bit of kit.
    as for techie stuff there are lot of guys way more qualified than me on here, good choice though!
     
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