My Boat project, it will be worth it ;)

  1. W.olly

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    If anyone is interested i will update bit by bit the progress of it, i started this a bit ago but this is the start of the madness:)
    Yes it is a bit shall we say ruff, but i like a bit of DIY to keep me busy:)

    Not to dwell on the past, after a bad last 18 months or so and ending up boatless and very little finance wise to get started back on the boating scene we found this wee cruiser on the good old fleabay,We were after a bigger boat but at the £150 this cost towards what we was looking at spending we got this, good thing is its only 9 miles from home where we could of done work on it......but nah, not go into details i would be quicker to get it done at home. Wont get meithered as much, ( land owner )

    Its in a sorry state as are all my boats i get, not all get finished by me but its good to get them a new life than leave them sat in yards or fields etc. This is a Buckingham 20, as said a bit small for what we wanted and for some reason i went to have a look at it and found it good for what we needed, somewhere to sleep, cook and well you know. Got god deck space asell for Ziggy, well jsut enough unless she dont stop growing otherwise we will have to get her on dinghy to pull behind lol.



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    It is as near a shell as you can get, well as soon as i rip out the bit thats left, Its has good room for a 20 footer, i have had a few in the past but this is set out well.



    The plan is to get it home asap and get stuck in, we did want to get it on the water straight away with just the hull and engine done then go from there buta s said, its coming home to get done, and more than just that, I dont mind roughing it on the boat, just like camping but as it will be home mite aswel;l get as much done as poss. I am in the process of sorting transport, i dont have a trailer or car to pull it now so i am looking on Uship for a full job or a trailer to buy, i have a local framer that can lift iot on for me at this then which will be easie than dragging it on a railer. Will cost more to move the boat than buy it, as always with these type of project boats.



    Once home we have decided to strat from the top and work down, so top deck fettled and painted then fit windows, i cant decide what to do windows wise yet, either just rubber with perspex, or maybe make some wooden ones again a si did with my old Creighton, they looked good but that was a bigger boat and the wood looked good on it, not sure if it will on this boat.



    So this is the new boat to set us off again, just happy to be back boating, even if not on the water yet.
     
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  2. Tigman

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    I Like a good project with plenty of pics !:laughing:
     
  3. Imakora Member

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    Looking forward to following your progress.
     
  4. W.olly

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    Plenty of pics to follow then ;)

    Going to be interetsing vur me to see how i have got on with it, not looked at these pics for a while, and already i think i had must of been on the cider lol.


    Getting it home


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    Bit of a ding here and there

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    Needa clean out i think

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    Well the plan that be is........cider........think..........cider.........no not think cider but boat lol. then more cider to get the brain ticking over. Once the brain is in gear and body motivated its a rip out to bare shell, as is being done now and near finished, mark off what repairs need doing and amend, that upto now is



    1 keal replacement along with bearers. ( going with Poly resin as Epoxy is to expensive but i will use plenty of Acetone to help the bond, and lots od CSM bandage )

    2 Bow repair.( see how bad it cuts back fro materials )

    3 A few strange delaminated patchs on the hull ( just found them last night, pics when i fix my phone [​IMG] , maybe a woven matting )

    4 Sand all back and prime then paint the whole shell but for below water line as this will me antifouled, loads of sanding discs and Flag Metallic primer and Rylard again i think )

    5 Fit new windows, new rubbers and perspex, shame i want glass but the cabin top is slightly curevd.

    6 Replace rubbing strakes with Sapele timber

    7 Make a new rear deck of sorts not yet decided also new cabin floor



    Sounds so quick and easy, but we know different dont we [​IMG]))), i think that will do for this weekends work [​IMG]
     
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  5. cumbriasteve

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    Nice project to follow, was well into boats myself so can see the potential in that hull.

    Will follow your hard work with interest :thumbup:
     
  6. blenkie1

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    wow!
     
  7. Shedendman

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    My bet is,this is going to be one longgggggggggggggggggggggg thread,you've got some work on your hands there, always fancied doing a boat up
     
  8. addjunkie

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    Your fond of a treat.....

    If it flys, floats, or has sex, it should be rented!
     
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  9. migcurious

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    what an interesting post but non boat question :is that a Dutton Sierra next to it ??
     
  10. Wedg1e

    Wedg1e They call me Mr. Bodge-angles

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    I was just about to post the same thing! Haven't seen one in years and that looks in good nick. Escort doors with GRP over-skins if I remember rightly.
    I knew a guy in Leeds with a Ginetta of similar shape and proportions; apparently it was built as a prototype by the Walkletts but then went no further. It had a Marina TC engine if I recall and hadn't moved in a while last time I saw it (probably 10 years ago).
     
  11. octo0072000

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    he sold the dutton a long time ago some of the pictures are old the boat has progressed a bit since then
     
  12. W.olly

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    Morning chaps, yes that is is a Sierra Dutton, a story in it self and a bit annoyed at, in short, friends.......who needs um, end of that one:( Now the boat lets see where was i. Oh removing the bad bits

    Oh its a good long build, and me i still dont know why but i am obsessed with boats.

    I am good at seeing through he *NO SWEARING ON THIS FORUM* when folk just think i am insane...which at times i think i am now looking back at these pics, what was i thinking :doh:



    There was supports/bearers form port to starboard that were glassed in, but as now rotten away, i am going to replace the keel, which is a bit rotten aswell, The idea for the floor, is to not have all the cross supports and resin in place a sheet on 18mm ply by bedding it inbetween the chines that can be seen in the pic, and on a bed of CSM sausage type thing then laminate the edges as usual for the floor.



    oh and i just bought a set of windows for it, a cut and shut and they will fit, just got a 450 mile round trip to collect them one weekend lol.

    This looks worse than it is.....well can it be any worse :)



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    In the last few days i have pinched an hour or two to get some done, today i near got all finished in the ripping out stage as i am on early`s at work but i didnt manage to do it, tired and hungry. its sooo good having the boat at home [​IMG])



    Keal is out as is the bearers but for a few at the back which are, or were under the engine bay, you know i dont even know the name of that part of a boat...anyone ? the section i have hanging down off the transom. in the last pic.



    Been an itcy and messy job cutting and ripping it all out but its near ready for all to be replaced, going to collect the fibreglass this weekend, going to replace all the bearers and not just replace with a one section solid floor. I dont think i have said but i have a set of ally windows to collect as soon as i can get down to near Newmarket, after i priced up new rubber seals and the perspex i need it came to near £300, yes the going rate but as i have fond a set for £80 that open it will be alot better, they will need a fettle to fit but thats easy enough.



    So pics so far, nothing much to look at but looks cleaner i think with the strakes removed and all the rubbish, well nearly all. Mite get more done tomorrow.



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    Just noticed it dont look any better in the pics as the bearers etc are still strewn about



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    It took some doing get the old keal out even though it was fairly rotten, it had some strange i think old expanding foam under it and between the timber, it had two lengths of 3 x 2.5 timber for the keal on top of each other, i ma sure it has been fettled in the past as the GRP come off easy...`ish, although a crowbar and lump hammer helps.



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    Now this is the part i will be also replacing now, if i am going to do it i mite aswell do the full job, and glad i did as the beam behind from the last refurb somebody has dome is all wet and a little rotten. This will be disposed off and a complete new one made, i though of patching it up but nah.



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    I have rethank...rethinked.....about the helm wheel, its not in great shape but i want to save it if i can, it will test my joinery skills though. So before pictures and later we will see, well later in the year. It will be a nice dark winters project i guess.



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    So i got some more ripped out, the transom beam was softer than i would of liked so its come out. and along with the the remains of the last work that was dome some years ago by god knows who since the early 70s. I am sure there cant be much else to remove......should i of said that !!!



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    I like to rip out but when i did this i thought it would never end, and well it didnt until there was little left.

    You see that crucafix on the top, i will be screwwed to that by SWMBO if i dont get this done.:laughing:
     
  13. cumbriasteve

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    My pet hate when restoring boats was the expanding foam that people put everywhere, I am sure it was invented by the devil, it eventually held water and was horrible stuff to scrape out.
     
  14. slim_boy_fat

    slim_boy_fat Forum Supporter

    Am I having a 'groundhog day'? I'm sure I've seen a write-up on the resurrection of this boat somewhere before, pretty much in its finished state.......:dontknow:

    If not, just ignore me and we'll call it a Senior Moment - but that house entrance, the boat etc look veeeery familiar.
     
  15. brightspark

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    very strange I saw the same a nearly finished boat painted and in good nick . whats going on wolly:dontknow: come clean
     
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  16. Coo

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    Land lubber questions!:

    So the grp shell has wooden frame inside?, and 'glassed' into that is the base structure?
    Has this wood rotted, and you are replacing that from the inside ?

    Are you building new frame floor ?

    Looks great once you've cleared it out.
     
  17. cumbriasteve

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    When you buy the grp shell they can be fairly 'floppy' and can twist and distort.

    To eradicate this you lay timber where required inside the hull ( the hull identifies the design and type) and glass over it, this timber can then be used as support areas for an internal floor system or as support for any external fittings (screwed through) such as rubbing strips, keel bands etc.

    Problems arise if the glassing is not done properly or sealant is not effective from external fittings, both allowing water in to rot the timber and make it ineffective in support strength.

    The solution usually involves an old semi blunt wood chisel and hammer to free off the fibreglass covering patch and remove the rotted timbers, easy enough task but cut hands and itchy arms if the correct gear is not used... horrible work in summer.
     
  18. Coo

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    Interesting, so quite straightforward - but hard graft and itchy!

    Cheers
     
  19. slim_boy_fat

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    That link comes up with "502: Bad Gateway" :dontknow:

    But since you've quoted it, I assume I haven't lost my marbles [yet :rolleyes:]......:)
     
  20. Seadog

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    It works fine for me Slim
     
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