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  1. Davey223 Member

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    Hi just bought a mig welder and wondering is gasless wire any good be four i go out and buy a bottle of gas
     
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    not the small bottles at £13/17 quid ?
     
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  5. Farside

    Farside Badly Welded Man

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    Gasless is ok if you have decent wire.
    Unfortunately, the majority of wire you find isn't.
     
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    What one is a good make
     
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    Farside Badly Welded Man

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    Lincoln, Weld-Team.
    The Lidl wire, as posted above, was good when I could get it, but only if Lidl are consistent in their source of supply.
    Avoid SuperSix, as the quality ranges from excellent to crap and mostly to the latter.
     
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    Is gas hard setup
     
  11. Burdekin

    Burdekin Chief Bodger

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    The Yanks love gasless and if you asked on a US forum you’ll get a very different reply.
     
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  14. Davey223 Member

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    Is that a good wire
     
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    From Sunday.
    You will need to reverse the polarity on your machine to electrode (torch) negative
     
  16. Farside

    Farside Badly Welded Man

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    Not got any direct experience of Stargas, and considering they don't make it themselves, are likely buying in by the cheapest quote from some far eastern supplier, I'd avoid it.
    As said, Lincoln, etc.
     
  17. Davey223 Member

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    Where would I get lincoln
     
  18. niels

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    I did order some gasless wire (brand INE as it got good comments), but I noticed you need a special wire feed roller for this. So I went out and got me a bottle of 75/25 Argon/CO2 anyway.

    I will try the gasless wire too as soon as my feed roller arrives.

    - Niels

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  19. Farside

    Farside Badly Welded Man

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    INE
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Proweltek-...asless+mig+welding+wire&qid=1594665648&sr=8-7

    See if your local welding suppliers has Air Liquide Weld Team gasless wire - mine has, and it's lovely stuff.


    I'd also be inclined to give the SIF wire a try, but can't be sure of its consistency. On the basis that their ordinary mig wire is excellent for me, I'd be willing to try it.
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gasless-...840629&hash=item280bc45dcc:g:HngAAOSwXaRaFFVy

    Trying to find Lincoln wire, will post up if I come across it. There were sellers punting it out just a couple of months ago.

    If you do a search on Amazon or ebay for gasless mig wire, there are lots will come up - most of them are crap.
     
  20. niels

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    Sorry to hijack the thread a little, but please make sure you order the right diameter of gasless wire.

    I had ordered 0.9 mm wire (as linked by @Farside in the post above), but then I couldn't find a wire feed roller with the same size groove.

    I only did find 0.8/1.0 mm K-groove (correct jargon?) wire feed rollera available. So I did order a new spool of 0.8 mm flux cored wire to match the roller.

    Now I've a spool of 1 kg sitting in the closet and most likely will never use it. Newbie error...

    BTW, I've paid about €15 for 0.9 kg of 0.8 mm INE flux cored wire.

    - Niels
     
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