Flexible Paint - to cover all ills

  1. Gragson

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    A fair few years back my wife relocated her art studio to our conservatory.
    Poly roof - so per usual freezing in winter and baking in summer.
    We lashed up 25mm kingspan insulation with no nails and some thin boards and tape, it was a bit of a gash job but needed doing cheap and quick. She now has a very nice big studio in the garden so...need to make the conservatory ceiling look half ok.

    There is no question of taking all the insulation down, so I need to fill gaps and make as good/flat as I can.

    The question though... is there a paint type covering that will stick and live with bare insulation surface, wood and in places plastic, and live with 2degC to potentially 35degC ?
    I read about something called zinneser paint once but would appreciate anyone's experience.
    Will pst pics of current mess tomorrow

    Cheers
    Chris
     
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  2. gaz_moose Member

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    can you not just use a big bit of cloth like material? stretch it out..
     
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  3. Gragson

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    Yes that was my idea also but rejected by home office :whistle:

    Posted a question on Srewfix

    Hello Gragson,
    Your question has been answered!
    Good News someone has provided an answer to your question about Zinsser Bulls Eye 1-2-3 Primer-Sealer 2.5Ltr.

    Click to see what they have said

    Hi. Thanks for your enquiry. Our most flexible primer is the Bulls Eye 1-2-3. It can be applied directly to metals (including foil), UPVC and also wood. 1-2 coats applied to a suitably prepared surface will seal the surface and promote adhesion of the top coat. Allow 1 hour between coats of Bulls Eye 1-2-3 and before you apply your top coat. I hope this helps.


    So I will take a punt at that I think, going to need a couple of tins at least...
    Thats once I have got this ship shape, roll on some neck ache..

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  4. daleyd

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    That’s ambitious!! Good luck :thumbup:
     
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  5. premmington

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    Board over it - then paint it - nothing will stick to kingspan!
     
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  7. Gragson

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    I think you're being kind, fool hardy more like :laughing:

    Yep, thats the charlie. Even just 25mm did make a difference, oddly more in the summer at reflecting the heat but noticeable in winter too. The double glazing and seals are in good shape in there.
    It is a bodge and boarding over would be a proper job although not an easy one with angles all over the place and not a lot to screw into.
    The reply on zinsser is that it will work on foil, metal, wood, plastic, will see if £50 worth will do it or poured down the drain..
     
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  8. gaz_moose Member

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    mine is a square room and big flat sheets so would be less of a nightmare.
    keep us updated on how you get on, I had planned on the big sheet of material method but your plan might be better.
     
  9. 8ob

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    I would mask up the timber and glass then get it foam sprayed, that would stabilise/stick together what you have and increase the insulation , it would also easily overpaint at a later date.

    Bob

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  10. eLuSiVeMiTe

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    Ply between the studs.
    Or hardboard.
    Much better finish.
     
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  11. eLuSiVeMiTe

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    Like this.

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    Took existing timber off. Fixed 2x1 to the supports with self tappers
    Framed all around and at 900mm centers from the exterior wall to support all edges

    Will trim all the joints to create a paneled ceiling
    Busy day
     
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  12. eLuSiVeMiTe

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    End in sight
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  13. barking mat

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    Nice work, that man!
     
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  14. julianf

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    Id plasterboard it and skim. But then I'm cheap and like plastering....
     
  15. the snooper

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    I'd do the same, much better and cheaper not to mention putting a decorative finish on it
     
  16. eLuSiVeMiTe

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    It's good you like plastering. Skim that and you'd be doing it again after the summer
    Would need a lot more support for the weight of plasterboard and to stop the movement.
     
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  17. Gragson

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    Chuffed to bits with it, looks really great now, great job mate, did you get the last pics?
    Will get the paint at the weekend & I've dusted the ladder ready for Mrs G to get up there :laughing:
     
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  18. eLuSiVeMiTe

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    Again. Not cheaper.bet it would have worked out more than double the cost.
     
  19. eLuSiVeMiTe

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    Finished pics

    Look forward to seeing it decorated.
     
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  20. the snooper

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    Ply is more expensive then plasterboard
     
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