English wheel/ wheeling raising machine

  1. pressbrake1

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    I thought I’d start a thread on my wheeling machine project. I’m making a full size ranalah and the 24” pictured
    Time is of the essence as the foundry I want to use with the capacity has been hurt by the covid situation.
    I’m scared of them shutting because these skills will disappear .
    Anyway here’s the cad screen shot
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    A bit more interesting than making straight edges for a job I hate!
     
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  2. 500e

    500e Always buy fire insurance a flood is hard to start

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    Looks good all ways liked the kickback you can form a circle I am told.
    Do you know when they were first made I heard a story ww2 designed to make aircraft engine cowls to get rid of weldid joints that were cracking.
    Sold my Edwards to a chap in Ireland.
     
  3. Brad93

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    In my opinion these would sell well. And for a decent price. Scraping is such a small niche area mainly being rediscovered by hobbyists, rather than by engineering shops or new machine tool rebuilders.

    Whereas English wheels are highly sought after by hobbyist and professionals alike who are breaking out on their own or starting their own shop.

    I imagine the casting costs will be quite high due to the size and the complexity.

    Box section creations on eBay are £700-1000.
    I can only imagine the flex that’s going to be in them.
     
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  4. pressbrake1

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    As I’ve said before because of hobbyists wanting a proper wheel and fancy car places buying wheels for decoration purposes (this is the annoying thing) it’s driven the price out of range of a lot of pros
     
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  5. pressbrake1

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    This 12” throat Edward made £1175 last week. I remember when a full size wheel was a grand from a dealer! ED1491D4-8B13-4754-A987-3CEE155ADF56.png
     
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  6. Brad93

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    Blimey! Any Edwards has gone mad
     
  7. Maker

    Maker nEw mEmBeR

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    I don't know much about wheeling, my first thought at the shape of it was a bandsaw frame, the casting would probably cost more than a brand new complete saw but it would look dead good. :D
     
  8. Burdekin

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    The Frost ones are a Ranalah copy, someone else also sell them. Very good price considering how much the old ones go for.

    WNS are the other company that sell the Ranalah copy.
     
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  9. daedalusminos Member

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    Nice project, do you intend to supply anvils as well?
     
  10. gaz1

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    ive seen burdekins english wheel in the flesh

    nice big and heavy certainly very useful as much as i took note of the mechanisms that moved on it

    i presume the english wheel would depend on what capicity of metal you was english wheeling on them
     
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  12. pressbrake1

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    My pal has one. It weighs 250kg less than a ranalah and it flexes bad. He only bought it as he couldn’t afford a real one. He is a professional coach builder..
    I’m making him a full size ranalah
     
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  13. 500e

    500e Always buy fire insurance a flood is hard to start

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    The Edwards flexed as well with to much pressure
     
  14. pressbrake1

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    It’s meant to flex like a spring, I can flex the chanalah with thumb and fore finger which is a bit to much yield
     
  15. Wallace

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    I'll see if I can get a screen grab from a video a customer of AC Autokraft took walking round the factory, loads of English wheels in there. Most of them came from Thames Ditton factory. :thumbup:
     
  16. 500e

    500e Always buy fire insurance a flood is hard to start

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    I was prity c**p with ours.
    • Never got into it. Our Wallace was good though, he said I tried to get the shape to fast with to much pressure :dontknow:
     
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  17. Wallace

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    :dontknow: :artist: :laughing:
     
  18. pressbrake1

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    First wheels turn of the century, mass production started in late thirties for obvious reasons
     
  19. 500e

    500e Always buy fire insurance a flood is hard to start

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    I meant the Ranalah @pressbrake1
    Not a good day going to the vpub
     
  20. pressbrake1

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    Ranalah coach works were pushing them in 1939 EF91CA05-88B6-492F-BB04-C9769C3700DC.png 00FCF0AA-3852-4ED5-8505-32C660289B3F.png 361C85ED-2937-46A2-AFAA-F10E7B851968.png EB124F03-109E-4F69-A40B-98A77E1CF4CA.png
     
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