Electric car charging

  1. Words fail me, a diesel generator charging an electric car.


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  2. barking mat

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    Source please. Off grid car park?
     
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  3. garethp Forum Supporter

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    Be interesting to know how efficient it is compared to just burning fuel in a car. Presumably the genny is setup to be most efficient at set revs whereas a car is constantly speeding up/slowing down, braking etc. But there's the losses in converting diesel to electricity to motion....
     
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    Nullabor, Australia. Vast treeless plain. Kind of explains things a bit.
     
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    It was an idea in Australia as there wasnt enough charging points when driving eleventy million miles of outback

    Although unless you can charge in 7 minutes and do another 500 miles I cant help but think a vehicle that uses diesel really would be the better option in that case
     
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    ha ha ha love it:clapping::clapping::clapping:
     
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    RonA specialist in repairing sealed for life equipment

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    No where near as efficient as using the diesel direct in the car. Electric cars only move pollution they don't improve it.
    One day the politicians & motoring press may finally realise whats going on.
    RonA
     
  8. mike os

    mike os just a little insane.....

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    So basically a totally unsuitable place for an ev..... human stupidity at it's finest
     
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    They could put a set of wheels and drawbar on the generator and tow it behind.
     
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    RonA specialist in repairing sealed for life equipment

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    Given the amount of sunlight falling on the Nullabor plain, wouldn’t a solar panel array & tesla storage battery have made more sense.
    RonA
     
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    Well said! ^^^^
    They'll have them in Camden & Islington soon, that'll keep the envirovegens happy and Khan in POWER....
     
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  12. Shox Dr

    Shox Dr Chief Engineer to Carlos Fandango

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    You mean; Politicians neither care, nor know any different. Journalists write what they are told to, while knowing even less.
     
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  13. Oh yes. It frustrates me immensely that they don't even bother to check the technical details. Witness aviation... First windy weather and we get pictures of Leeds Bradford landings done (correctly and safely) crosswind. They make it out to be something amazing and terrifying every time!
     
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    And it would be interesting to know if the genny is fitted with a dpf or even a cat, coz what would you have to do? load and tow the genny to the motorway on the back of a diesel truck and rev the **** out of it? also if its a business vehicle you would have to pay someone to sit and drink coffee for an hour while they wait
    Or in that wasted space at front under the windscreen you could fit a diesel generator to charge the battery to keep driving the car now that would be a good design dont have to bother to have adpf on it or mot checks on exhaust emissions coz its a genny and you wont have to stop ! also we all know how clean small set rev gennies are ... NOT.
    so why not get a transmission to link to the wheels to do it directly to save the losses ...we could call it a gearbox !
     
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    Shox Dr Chief Engineer to Carlos Fandango

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    ..and you could grow Peanuts to turn into Diesel fuel.
     
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    mike os just a little insane.....

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  17. RonA

    RonA specialist in repairing sealed for life equipment

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    More brutally put, than perhaps I would have phrased it but yes I agree.
    RonA
     
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  18. Munkul Member

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    let's be fair, being in a plane during a crosswind landing IS amazing and terrifying, to me anyways. Liverpool airport always seems to have a crosswind when we land there. I do not like it!
     
  19. There is another way to do crosswind landings but they don't because that DOES scare the passengers. A conventional (commercial) landing it done by holding the aircraft nose off the centre line with the rudders and ailerons. In effect the aircraft is pointing to a different place to the runway, compensating for the wind. You will notice that it tracks the runway correctly though. A moment before the flare, the pilot kicks the aircraft straight in line with the runway and touches down asap. If he kicks it too early, the aircraft will drift off the runway centre line. Do it too late and you land sideways, potentially taking off the landing gear! They tend to always get it right. :D

    The other option not used by commercials is to fly "out of balance *" with one wing down to counter the drift and rudder keeping the nose straight. It feels strange and of course passengers may think that the wing down will hit the runway. Personally I prefer to approach wing down, but it does depend on circumstances, the aircraft and the whim of the day.

    * Both are "out of balance" really and the crossed controls tend to increase the sink rate rather a lot.Useful when you have the approach all gone to worms though!
     
  20. piman Member

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    Hello RonA

    the governments of various countries have put the cart before the horse in decreeing that IC powered cars cannot be sold after whatever date they select.
    We and many other countries do not have the electrical infrastructure in place to charge them, and are extremely unlikely to do so before the cut off date and not increase CO2 emissions.
    As wind and solar are not reliable and are under capacity anyway (I'm ignoring the technical problems of incorporating a large perecentage of renewable generation onto the grid such as short circuit levels which are slowly dropping as more wind is incorporated, a high short circuit level ensures that protection trips when a fault occurs to isolate the section with the fault without having it spread further afield) and the lethargy at which nuclear generation can be built due to opposition all the extra grid load from charging these vehicles will be met by fossil fuel generation.

    I'm sure politicians are unaware, especially if they are advised by the Commitee for Climate Change run largely by people from or have been from the renewable sector.

    Alec
     
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