Hi There,
Can anyone help i have a Telwin Artika 282 arc welder which blows the fuse in the 3 pin plug, The welder will fire up and after about 30 sec it blows the fuse in the plug but doesn't trip the breaker
EAN CODE 800489755325 2
MAINS FREQUENCY Hz 50 - 60
SINGLEPHASE MAINS VOLTAGE V 230/400
MAX ABSORBED POWER KW 8
ABSORBED POWER AT 60% KW 2,7
POWER FACTOR cosphi 0,44
MAX NO LOAD VOLTAGE IN AC V 70-78
CURRENT RANGE IN AC A 35-250
MAX CURRENT IN AC EN60974-1 A 220 @ 10%
AC CURRENT AT 35% A 118
AC CURRENT AT 60% A 90
D. USABLE ELECTRODES IN AC mm 1,6 - 5
INSULATION CLASS H
PROTECTION DEGREE IP22
DIMENSIONS (LxWxH) cm 75 x 36 x49
WEIGHT KG 33
No, I meant what amperage are you welding at. It's quite normal for AC transformer machines like yours to blow 13amp fuses if you go above a certain amperage...say above 2.5mm rods...they need a heavier supply; but if it's blowing fuses even on low amps & small diameter rods (2.0mm/1.6mm) then it sounds as though you have a machine fault.
weldequip
U1 230v , I1 19a that little line on the plate tells you at 230v its 19amps. which means a 13 amp fuse will go pop. What i would suggest is replace the household plug with a blue industrial 16amp one. 32amps on the breaker is fine if it blows that, then there would be trouble.
I would think a 13 amp fuse would work up to around 120amps after that there is to much current draw
Unusual that, you should be able to use small rods at low amps without blowing the fuse. Do you keep sticking the rod to the job? That could cause the fuse to go. I'd phone the dealer & see what they say.
weldequip
If i remember a long time ago, when i used to own a similar sort of machine (very long time ago, been an inverter man for about 8 yrs now) they were fine up to around 120amps anything above that and t popped the fuse
I have a 30 amp cooker socket in the kitchen but I use a gas cooker so it's a bit redundant.
If I call in an electrician to add a new 30 amp lead from the fuse box, to a socket a few feet away in the garage, that could get a bit expensive.
Here's my alternative idea. Is there any law against it and is this an allowable 'spur' that I can add myself, without any need for an electrician?
1. Turn off all power to the entire house.
2. Remove kitchen 30 amp socket and fit a cheap 30A junction box instead.
3. Connect 30A cable to the junction box and run the cable several metres from the kitchen to the garage. Connect a 30A socket to the garage end of the 30A wire.
4. Turn the power back on.
Without any change to the fuse box, the 30A fuse previously marked 'cooker' could be amended to read 'welder'.
They seem to say that the following jobs are outside of Part P:
(a) replacing damaged socket outlet, whether in kitchen or elsewhere
(b) connection of cooker to an existing connection unit, whether in kitchen or elsewhere.
I have revised my work plan as follows, to ensure it should now fall outside of Part P:
Firstly, I will replace the damaged 30A socket/connection on the wall behind my cooker. I will replace it with one of the standard 30A sockets seen pictured on this site before. This is under (a) above, so should be outside Part P.
Next, I will make up a 5 or 6 metre 30A 'extension lead' which plugs into the new cooker socket at one end and trails (not installed at all) into the garage. The welder will plug into the other end, a bit like the 13A extension lead for an electric drill or something. This sort of comes under (b) above, except I am plugging in a welder, rather than a cooker. I suggest it's not wthin Part P, either.
If anyone still thinks this is within Part P, please provide a bit of reasoning and depth to any response.
that would still be within the control of part P as it would not be a "Like for like" swap. You will not have a BS4343 32A socket behind the cooker but a connection plate. Also wiring in a cooker does fall under part P if done for financial or contractual gain e.g. kitchen fitter. I realise that this doesn't apply in you case as its your own property. Also the cooker circuit is not designed for the addition of extra cabling onto and with all probability would not disconnect under fault contentions