advice, suggestion of .iron fence frame and corrugated sheets

  1. u facciolu

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    hello, I should make an iron frame as a support for a fence to be built with galvanized corrugated sheets, like barracks, the supporting poles should be planted in the ground, the measurements are 12 meters long, one meter and sixty centimeters high, which materials should I use, must resist the gusts of wind and the marine saltiness, they must protect a garden from intruders and wild anilals, what do you suggest, what do you recommend, which material to use?

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  2. eLuSiVeMiTe

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    Why not use concrete posts designed for timber cant rails (feather edge fence style) and bolt your box section to the predrilled holes to fix your corrugated sheet to.

    Great thing about concrete posts. They don't rust underground.
     
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  3. gaz1

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  4. 500e

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    "they must protect a garden from intruders and wild animals"
    How big are the animals & how wild,
     
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  5. brightspark

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    normally quite fat and nasty and have unregistered tyranny's :whistle:
     
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  6. Pigeon_Droppings2 Member

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    I tent to build everything OTT!..how about using steel gate posts....those galvanised ones?
     
  7. u facciolu

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    I have to realize a solid and economic structure, I don't have a lot of economic resources otherwise I wouldn't use galvanized corrugated shed-style sheets, it's very unattractive economic me functional. if I plant 2-inch iron pipes in iron how long do they last, how long will the rust corrode them?
     
  8. gaz1

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    id build an outer leg as support for the fence post fitted with an angle iron between the frames and fence so you can drill and fasten them

    the sngle post will rock seen it so many times but people dont want to loose 12" for a post support in there garden

    same with wood and built up wall posts they just give due to wind vibration when wind hits the fence

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  9. Pigeon_Droppings2 Member

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    Ahh...didn't realise there were cost considerations!

    How about scaffold poles with a back brace as gaz1 suggests
     
  10. bigegg

    bigegg I drink and I know things. Its what I do.

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    consider using scrap garage doors?
    cost me between 5 and 10 quid each.
    already framed.
    just run 40x40x3mm angle top and bottom, rivetted or tek screwed.

    i use 150mm ish round fence posts.

    think theyre about 11? quid for 12ft tanalised. dip in some blackjack damp proofing/bitumen paint up to about 1ft over ground level.
    depending on prevailing winds, you only need one every 4-6 ft, and sank into ground 2-4ft.
     
  11. bigegg

    bigegg I drink and I know things. Its what I do.

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    addendum:
    if you are near the coast, or otherwise in an area of strong winds, forget about a solid fence.
    it will turn into a big sail, and rip itself to pieces.
    you'll need to do double sided "yorkshire boarding"
     
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  12. eLuSiVeMiTe

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    Hit and miss boarding.
    Never heard it called yorkshire fencing.
     
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  13. bigegg

    bigegg I drink and I know things. Its what I do.

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    "yorkshire boarding"
    used on barns?
    i didnt know the correct term for the paling fence with a gap.
     
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    actually it is about 200 meters from the sea and the wind sometimes exceeds 80/100 km / h so I should make a solid frame to prevent it from flying like a glider, someone has suggested I believe scaffolding tubes or for vertex road signs good idea, a seller suggested me to buy for the horizontal bars on which to screw the panels 4 iron box bars 50x 30 x 2 mm thick, for the vertical box poles 50x 50 mm or 40 x 40 x 3 mm thick, 2 meters long 50 cm I put them in the ground what do you think? to make the holes I thought instead of using shovel and pickaxe with a large and long chisel, beat them with the bat and then pulled it away what do you say?

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  15. wyn

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    I've always known it as yorkshire boarding here in Wales.
     
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  16. Pigeon_Droppings2 Member

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    Those box sections don't look strong enough to me...how big are the panels between the posts....I doubt it's difficult to calculate the wind load on the fence.

    Square section I find tends to flex quite a bit unless the walls are very heavy!

    100mph = 200kg per sq m....blimey I wasn't expecting it to be that much
     
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    shall we secure a ferrule in the part that I have to plant in the ground as I cover the underground part, with liquid concrete? Thanks
     
  19. addjunkie

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    If available Id go for concrete posts everytime. Those feet that hammer into the ground are not brilliant. If you must use metal, use box section, at a guess 50x75x5, the rectangular section will make it far more resistant to wind. If your only keeping out animals and not eyes, use wire mesh, chain link fencing. Mesh will allow lighter posts to as there will be less wind loading.

    Steel in the ground will need galvanizing. Unless you use I girders that will probably out last you.
     
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    rectangular box only for horizontal crosspieces or also for poles for vertical posts? below I would like to create a shirt with plastic tubes to isolate the metal of the pole from the ground from moisture and condensation. I would need a big chisel to make the holes without using a shovel and a pickaxe


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