3M 6200 filters

  1. Memmeddu

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    Hi everyone
    I will buy a 3M 6200 , now the problem is that I don't know what kind of filters I should use
    Welding, cutting and grinding operations
    Hobby very close space less than 10 square metres
    I "work" with galvanized,oiled and greased,dirty , painted, rusted stuff .
    At moment I don't have a plasma cutter yet but I hope to buy one before the end of the year
    I have a stick welder so a smokey process
    In the future I will buy a MIG welder but i will use it with flux cored so smokey
    Can someone help me to understand what kind of filters I do need ?
    Thanks
     
  2. SteScouse

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    From what I've read on manufacturers sites its a P3 filter for welding and metal working. Thats the type i use anyway

    I'm no expert tho, pro guys will know better than me
     
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  3. Memmeddu

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    I took a look to the chart you sent me and yes the filter I need is abek1 P3
    Thank you so much
     
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  4. SteScouse

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    This is same respirator i use. In states its marketed as a Miller. In europe its GVS Eclipse

     
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  5. Memmeddu

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    It's valuable option because I've seen that 3M 6200 and the abek1 P3 filters ain't gonna fit under the helmet
    If I want to stick with 3M 6200 I have to use the cotton filter that have active carbons inside , not the pink filters but the white ones
    The GVS seems to be much more compact now I have to understand if the filters are easily available here when I live because sometimes I can't wait for the delivery
     
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  6. SteScouse

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    Did a bit of stick welding today, just some practice beads on an old piece of thick plate

    Enjoyed it but left feeling like i smoked a few cigars

    Time to change the filters in my respirator i think. First photo is side by side comparison of filter inside vs outside


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    Second shows filter material starting to delaminate, with a small piece on clean inner surface of a filter. If thats turned over tho looks just like the other one

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    Think a filter respirator essential for any welding really. Your just taking all that stuff into your lungs if you dont use one. I wear it for grinding too.
     
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  7. Memmeddu

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    I can't believe how it will turns out after a long session of wire wheeling
    I used to wire wheeling without any PPE
    But since I knew that this masks are cheap I understood that I can't following to don't wear them
     
  8. SteScouse

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    MIG not as smokey mate but it still is and its better not getting it inside your lungs

    I'm buying new filters tmw, about £10
     
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  9. Memmeddu

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    Grade of protection?
     
  10. SteScouse

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    P3 filters, states statable for.....

    Protection againstd dust particles, metal fumes, asbestos, oil and water mists, bacteria and viruses.

    Approved to European Standard EN140: 1998. APF : 20
     
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  11. Memmeddu

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    Just because I can have them at 100 meters away from home
    3M P100 for the 6200 mask are the same?
     
  12. SteScouse

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    I think P100 filters might actually be a little better but only from what I'm finding on web

    Apparently P3 filters stop 99% of particles, whereas P100 stop 99.97%

    Dont quote me, only just done a quick search

    EDIT another site says P3 does 99.95%, nearly same as P100

    But i reckon for hobbyist nothing between them really
     
  13. Parm

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    Obviously, you need to get some better cigars
     
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  14. Parm

    Parm I have fun doing stuff

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    Don’t believe the internet.

    P3 is where it’s at, drop me a pm
     
  15. Turbo Member

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    I have a 3m mask & for general grinding & welding I use either the 2901 pink P100 filters or the 2135 white P3 filters.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/3M-2091-P100-Particulate-Filter/dp/B002KFFY9A
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01N06TQSV/ref=dp_cerb_2

    For anything that might give off vapours I use the 6059 filter combined with the 5935 pre filter & holder.

    https://www.arco.co.uk/products/114700
    https://www.arco.co.uk/products/119600
    https://www.arco.co.uk/products/119900

    Problem with the 6059 filter is that you will struggle to fit it under most welding helmets. The round filters fit under both my helmets no problem.

    Some useful info here on filter ratings.
    http://blog.euromarc.co.nz/what-does-p100-mean-on-a-respirator
     
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  16. Mart63

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    I use 2138 filters in mine.
     
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  17. Memmeddu

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    So for general grinding and welding pink or white filters are good
    For combined filters I could set the helmet to have more space inside
    (Put the screws as it go forward giving little bit of room)
     
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