eLuSiVeMiTe
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And the ones that do bother I often wish they hadn't botheredThey're already not bothering.
And the ones that do bother I often wish they hadn't botheredThey're already not bothering.
They're already not bothering.
Yup. Friend in England has a son who has been on the dole since he was 18, now 25. Claims he has some sort of -ism / alphabet so they'll leave him alone. Friend has fallen out with him over it as he works damn hard and sees his boy as taking the ****.They're already not bothering.
That's called jealousy or stupidity.I had a contractor in last week, bitchin' about the rest of his workforce...
"they furloughed everyone except me, since as I'm the chargehand, they decided they'd put me in charge of mobile repairs... It's not fair, they get to sit on their backsides for months, and I've had no holiday or anything!"
I'm busy thinking, If I were you I'd be grateful to a) have a job for full pay, and b) not be bored sitting at home doing nothing!
And that there is the problem, for those that employ the wages need to be as low as possible to remain competitive, for employees they need to be as high as possible. Very little in the way of incentives for anyone that can get by on housing benefit and dole money to get enthusiastic about seeking work, sick note hunters all to easily signed off for life and then there is that permanent million that are unemployable. It's going to take a genius to come up with a solution to stop the welfare system in this country collapsing, NHS needs an ever-increasing budget to keep up with advances in medicine, we have an ever-increasing elderly population to support that are all living longer.We won't go into schools and the millions being spent on fruitless hair brained courses and other job avoidance schemes. All this and the tab for covid will be paid for directly or indirectly by the working man, hammer the businesses and they will go down the pan or move abroad, wealth is very mobile and any attempt to target that will see it disappear very quickly.
Bob
Amazing how people see the same thing differently.We see SOME migrant workers come to the UK with barely more than the shirts on their back and build lives from nothing because they are prepared to do any job available. You should visit some areas of Sheffield and Rotherham where certain have established a foothold......vast majority have no intentions of working. They steal and scrounge and the council set up drop in centres to teach them how to get benefits.
Think it depends what direction you look.Amazing how people see the same thing differently.
Why are pensions being made worthless and by whom.. is what you need to ask..I'm getting there too myself...been looking at Portugal and Malta recently [Spain is out....i don't want a house with bars on the windows]. I can't really see the point of staying in the UK....by the time I retire I suspect the pension I supposedly paid for during my working life will be worthless anyway.....and anything I've managed to save will be taxed heavily in the name of fairness...and the greater good.....getting to the point where I think just cut my losses now.
I agree with every word you have written Bob... (I really do!)
I have no answers for this at all - I really don't - I can too see all the problems... (very clearly)
As an employer I need to make a profit - margins are just too low to pay huge wages.
The gap is just too small for workers and employers.
(unless you run a bank?)
Agreed...the problem is if you object.....you get accused. Even though Race does not come into the thought process.Think it depends what direction you look.
Race has bugger all to do with it
There's nasty bar stewards In every country across the globe. Just like there's decent folk.
How could they be otherwise when the west has to compete with the east and places like China and Korea ?
Think it depends what direction you look.
Race has bugger all to do with it
There's nasty bar stewards In every country across the globe. Just like there's decent folk.
My son found that. Moved jobs several time most not out of choice. Staff reductions usually..... always went the extra mile but if was never rewarded.@eLuSiVeMiTe Correct indeed
I'm looking forward to the fact I'm going to work for a local independent company tbh
Fed up of working for national companies & their work politics
@8ob I think they need to have a serious clamp down on people claiming benefits tbh
I blame minimum wage for a lot of this. When I was 19 / 20 in the late 90's I could get £10 an hour easy. I was 16 and part time at tesco earning £8/h mid 90's! They brought minimum wage in and suddenly its 'we pay minimum wage' - it was an excuse for people to pay less not more. Now, 20 years on its hard for a lot of skilled guys to break that £10/h ceiling. Disgraceful really.
Mate of mine is now a copper. She was a checkout supervisor at tesco before that, and was earning well under a tenner an hour. Even as a PC on the modern salary she'd be better off at MacDonalds but its a job she loves so just gets on with it.
I blame minimum wage for a lot of this. When I was 19 / 20 in the late 90's I could get £10 an hour easy. I was 16 and part time at tesco earning £8/h mid 90's! They brought minimum wage in and suddenly its 'we pay minimum wage' - it was an excuse for people to pay less not more. Now, 20 years on its hard for a lot of skilled guys to break that £10/h ceiling. Disgraceful really.
Mate of mine is now a copper. She was a checkout supervisor at tesco before that, and was earning well under a tenner an hour. Even as a PC on the modern salary she'd be better off at MacDonalds but its a job she loves so just gets on with it.
Tesco was good paying. I was on the same as my mum at the time who was working in an office.really? I worked at Morrison's (evening part time as i was at college) in around 1994 and it was about 2:80 an hour