I always put copperslip on wheel nuts they never get over tightened as I only put them back on with a standard spider brace by hand and they come off the same way so the argument of over tightening them with a gun or torque wrench doesn't apply its every one to there own though ive never had any come loose or any over tightened and snap in 50 years . in fact I have only over tightened and stripped threads on 4 nuts and bolts in all that time on anything
like I said you are correct but I don't have to conform. I built a kitcar 20 years ago all the nuts and bolts have copperslip on them and everyone will loosen no probs .try doing that when they have all gone rusty and seized with road salt
yes I have nipped them up with a 18" breaker bar and feel
The only place I've ever seen do it properly is Costco. They use torque limiters on the guns and the torque wrench is used carefully. They also insist on putting the new tyres on back.
I watched a tyre fitter start to jack my car under the floor pan and when I stopped him and told him he was wrong he told me it had a rubber pad so would be fine so I had to be a little more blunt with my comments.
When I fit a wheel I always do opposite bolts if it has 5 I do one miss one till it's complete and do 2 passes so I know the wheel will be seated squarely, very few people people seem to do this.
I haven't had tyres fitted anywhere other than my own workshop for more than a decade and I've easily recovered the cost of the changer and balancer and that's not including the fact i'd get my money back on them anyway.
If you have the space and tinker with cars buy a tyre machine it's a no brainer.
It's amazing what someone with experience can achieve with feel. a friend of mine fitted a head gasket to a Vauxhall diesel while in France just using a breaker bar, it went on to do another 50K with no issues.
I was helping a friend who was just getting into tinkering with cars, I nipped up the wheels with a bar. He then got his new torque wrench out to check them and he was amazed that every one of them moved the same amount before clicking, I was probably 2-3 NM away from the torque spec.
We stopped lubing up wheel bolts - when our insurers said they would withdrawer liabilty cover if we did.
Yep thats true - there is a "hit list" of things they will not cover.
Customer supplied parts - secondhand parts - used tyres - loads of simple workpractices (me and you would think were OK).
Does make you think thou - I bet there are more wheels falling off after a trip to the garage than you think.
There has to be a good reason for them to make that statement, it's an interesting discussion because I've heard loads of people blame lube for snapping bolts/studs.
I do wipe a bit of lube on mine and I guess like everything in life you'll never have a problem right up till you do.
no need to be time served if u do hundreds up you soon get the feel for them having said that some people will never learnMost time served fitters/mechanics only get the torque wrench out for "mission critical" jobs like - head bolts - injector clamp bolts - crankshaft bolts. Torque wrench settings are being replaced with degrees of turn on new bolts now.
Most time served fitters/mechanics only get the torque wrench out for "mission critical" jobs like - head bolts - injector clamp bolts - crankshaft bolts. Torque wrench settings are being replaced with degrees of turn on new bolts now.
no need to be time served if u do hundreds up you soon get the feel for them having said that some people will never learn
It's always bugged me that angle tighten bolts for cranks or cams have to be replaced yet the belt or chain kits often don't include the bolts even if you buy best quality ones.
Yep - this winds me up no end - and normally the only place you can get them after a wait - is the dealer for silly money.
It's always bugged me that angle tighten bolts for cranks or cams have to be replaced yet the belt or chain kits often don't include the bolts even if you buy best quality ones.
And the parts person at dealer talks to you like they've never sold one before.
Plenty of people do a good job on low pay, nobody goes to work to do a bad job, I would argue that the management of such establishments are to blame. You cant do a proper job if nobody takes the time to train you properly & explain the ramifications of what failing to do the job right can cause.They’re paid £8.50-10 an hour, they’re thick.