So.... I want to learn TIG welding.

  1. Oldbanger Member

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    I've been a member of this forum for a few years now , I joined up because I wanted a few tips on how to mig weld - thanks largely to the help advice and tutorials I found on here I have been able to stick bits of mild steel together with varying degrees of success. I'm under no illusion that I'm a master welder and fully understand that I will probably never be done learning this dark art.
    All that being said I have always wanted to "give TIG a go"... I've just about decided on the tig set I'm after (either the esab buddy tig 160 or the thermal arc 175 te) they seem to be the two that will do what I want them to do and come in at the money I'm willing to spend.
    My question to you fine folk is : what tips do you have for someone like myself looking to start out???.. no formal training, just the will to listen and learn.

    Cheers all... and thanks in advance
     
  2. Richard.

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    Hey mate
    Yes a 160 amp dc set like those will happily get you into it. Don't forget you'll need a bottle of argon too.
    Best advice I can give you is if possible find a couple of hours local 1 to 1 tuition just to get your hand in it. I bet there are members up there that would love an excuse to show you the ropes for a morning. I do it regularly for members on here but your a bit of an impractical drive from me.
     
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  3. Maker

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    I found Welding tips and tricks and Chucke2009* very helpful when I first started, as well as the advice of this forum after posting bead pictures.

    I'm also considering either of the two sets you mentioned, I'd be interested to know how you get on with them.

    *His older videos, maybe 2014 and back, before he got all product placementy and clickbaity.
     
  4. Hood

    Hood Forum Supporter

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    Where in Scotland are you?
     
  5. Oldbanger Member

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    It would be great to get someone to show me what to do , I've looked into welding courses .... unfortunately my working hours are so hectic that unless I book a holiday for a short course , I just wouldn't make the class times! but hey if any knowledgeable forum members in or around Glasgow would be willing? I'd have my beer tokens at the ready!
    talking of gas.... I was under the impression that my hobby weld would do the trick? or am I looking at getting pure argon for tig? another question I had was what material I should start my learning with? is there a more "forgiving" metal?
     
  6. Hood

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    Ah ok, other side from me.

    You need pure Argon for Tig.
     
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  7. Hood

    Hood Forum Supporter

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    As for metal, just plain old mild steel will do.
     
  8. Oldbanger Member

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    Thanks for your reply... I honestly don't think there is a single you tuber that I haven't subscribed to... I love the tips and tricks videos... worth putting up with the ads!!! I aim to have my set within the next week or so... don't imagine I will be producing anything spectacular but I will be sure to let you all know (and see) my progress
     
  9. Oldbanger Member

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    Mild steel... excellent!! I've got loads of the stuff ... and pure argon... well that I will have to sort out - always something isn't there
     
  10. gt6s Member

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    Co2 Argon mix will work DC TIG on mild steel after a fashion. But far better with pure Argon.
    Good luck.

    Laurence
     
  11. Oldbanger Member

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    yeah... I had read that they were not suitable for aluminium but don't understand why? what is it that limits these tig sets?
     
  12. Hood

    Hood Forum Supporter

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    Alu Tig needs AC, these sets are just DC.
     
  13. Oldbanger Member

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    cheers mate... recon I'll invest in the right gas - no point throwing more hurdles in my way!
     
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  14. Oldbanger Member

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    ahhh... I see - I haven't seen an ac/dc tig within the 500 budget I've set myself.
     
  15. Hood

    Hood Forum Supporter

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    Not new anyway, I sold a 250Amp TecArc one to a place in Glasgow a while back for £400 if I recall.

    The Parweld I now have cost £840 incl VAT

    Edit, just looked it was £500 I sold it for.
     
  16. Oldbanger Member

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    I'm not against buying a good second hand welder... so long as it's been looked after - the first problem I have is that I would have no way of testing the machine myself and would rely on the honesty of the seller. the second problem is that I simply don't know enough about tig welders to know a good setup from cheap crap!
     
  17. Hood

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    Yes, probably best going new but you will definitely be limited to DC on that budget unless you go cheap Chinese which is something I would not do.
     
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  18. FergalFarty Member

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    I'm a novice welder too and in a similar situation to you. I looked at £500 welders and went for the Jasic JT180 which will do DC TIG and stick. It also has HF start which makes it a lot easier when learning to TIG. The 5 year warranty is reassuring. See my review here:

    http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/threads/jasic-180-dc-tig-chinese-wp9-torch-review.73080/

    Don't forget to budget for all the other stuff you'll need like TIG gloves, normal gauntlets are too thick and heavy for the fine control needed for TIG. Filler rods, tungstens, auto-darkening helmet etc. BOC do a deal on the argon for hobbyists, your first bottle will cost you £120 (£75 rent + £45 gas), this seems to be the best value deal around.
     
  19. Oldbanger Member

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    thanks for that ... luckily I have everything apart from the gas. can I ask what it was that made you choose the Jasic ? just about to read your review now .
     
  20. FergalFarty Member

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    I've had the Jasic for a few months now and have probably done about 6 hours actual welding time on it. I've nearly finished my first bottle of argon. I've mostly been welding mild steel box section 1-3mm thick and a little bit of stainless.

    The machine has been flawless, easier to use than the other machines I've tried, but this may be due to the torch as all the other machines had bulky wp26 torches. The wp9 torch I got from China has not been such a success as I don't really like the swivel head, and it uses unusual connectors. It does have a nice flexible hose though, which is better than the one supplied with the welder.

    I bought some gas lenses, whether these actually improve the welds and/or reduce gas usage it's hard to say, as I'm no expert. I also got some shorter back caps, these definitely help when you need to get into tight spots.
     
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