Painting a wooden Land Rover?

[brewdexta]

Guys

I've just about finished the bodywork on my kids Toylander, its made out of moisture resistant MDF with some bits of pine batten, a little ply and the bonnet front wing top/corners are aluminium. It has to be sealed otherwise it will swell then turn into soggy weetabix. There's a range of systems people use on the Toylander forum, PVA to seal the wood then synthetic or cellulose of 2k etc. Some use brushes, rollers and some pay almost a grand for a body shop job.

However I thought I would illicit the opinions on this forum before buying/doing anything as I have enough unused paint on the shelf!

I will be filling and rubbing down the bodywork with upol filler first. My finishing criteria are :

1. Sealing the woodwork is paramount as the kids will leave it out in the rain and we get plenty of it up here
2. Finish is secondary as the kids will bash it into stuff, having said that I don't want it to look a dogs dinner.
3. If the kids really do a good job of hitting stuff, I want to be able to repair it relatively easily so its water tight again, I don't mind the odd battle scar.
   
4. I have two daughters, they already know not to even think its going to be pink it will be a classic Land Rover colour, probably the light green with black or silver "chassis"

Any suggestions welcome, I don't have breathing apparatus so won't be spraying 2K however I have a well ventilated barn so can roller it or use other systems.

Alternatively if somebody near West Yorkshire has spraying facilities for 2K I'm all ears, especially if there is some land rover colours knocking about, I may settle on Bronze green if its available.

I'm having difficulty uploading a picture on mobile broadband so it will have to be a photo bucket jobbie. This is from a few weeks ago, its moved on from this quite a bit, I just have to make the rear door and do a trial fit of wind screen and suspension/motors and do a bit of filling so about 2 weeks away from paint day.

Regards
Andy

 

[gordon stephenson]

Looking really nice Andy,Looking forward to further pic's.

 

[octo0072000]

thin some PVA wood glue and seal it with that done it loads of times on chipboard mdf etc
then paint it with oil based paint much better to touch up after the slight accidents etc

 

[brewdexta]

Thanks guys

Here's a more recent pic with their lady-ships on board.

Cheers
Andy

 

[Wendelspanswick]

At least let them have pink seats and a Sponge Bob Squarepants air freshener, it might put a smile on their faces?

 

[daleyd]

That seems more road worthy than some landy's I've seen around here! Nice job!

 

[brewdexta]

They had their pokers faces on, the one you use when you are buying a car, they weren't too happy about the lack of wheels and livid about having no choke to hang their handbag on Amendments will be made, maybe I should get Langey to paint it strawberry pink flake

 

[Shedendman]

Looks nice,but dont be taken in to much about that green MDF being waterproof its not,when it says moisture resistant its mainly dampish conditions the edges will still suck in water and swell.
If i was you i'd key the whole lot down esp the MDF faces and apply a good few coats of oil based primer/undercoat thinned down a bit let it seep into the edges,sand down between coats then topcoat of your choice

 

[brewdexta]

Looks nice,but dont be taken in to much about that green MDF being waterproof its not,when it says moisture resistant its mainly dampish conditions the edges will still suck in water and swell.

+1, its the woodworking equivalent of "showerproof" clothing, i.e. you get soaked at the first sign of moisture.

 

[clift_d]

Looks nice,but dont be taken in to much about that green MDF being waterproof its not,when it says moisture resistant its mainly dampish conditions the edges will still suck in water and swell.
If i was you i'd key the whole lot down esp the MDF faces and apply a good few coats of oil based primer/undercoat thinned down a bit let it seep into the edges,sand down between coats then topcoat of your choice

Rustoleum Combicolor can give good results when applied with a roller as topcoat for vehicles - there's a comprehensive thread on this forum discussing technique and showing the kind of results you can get.

 

[brewdexta]

Rustoleum Combicolor can give good results when applied with a roller as topcoat for vehicles - there's a comprehensive thread on this forum discussing technique and showing the kind of results you can get.

Like it, may just be the ticket if I can it in get Land Rover S1 light/pastel green

 

[clift_d]

I think some of the Rustoleum stockists can mix specific colours for you - again check the above info for more details.

 

[brewdexta]

Evidently you need the RAL code, I've searched and read through loads of Land Rover forums when they blather on about lists of colour codes and RAL equivalents without actually doing owt I've found various big tables of land rover colour codes but nothing that gives you the closest RAL equivalent however RAL 6019 looks to be closest to me. Its not like I'm trying to match some existing paint so I may just go ahead and order some.

 

[clift_d]

These guys will apparently mix to colour references - you might be able to get a BS or Rover paint reference that they can mix to.

 

[brewdexta]

I had a look, RAL, BS381C, BS4800 or Pantone is what they need on-line

So looking at available paint codes for Land Rover Pastel green from here or here or even here, you get the following, none of which map to the above!

"Colour name" HCD
Land Rover LRC.005 or RTC4041A
Aerosol RTC4041A
Touch-up GAP405
Dupont GTU405
Ditzler 38504 and 38504A
Glasurit ROV605
RM-Supermax RV-028

I think somebody needs to start a new colour coding scheme!

I shall make some phone calls

Regards
Andy

 

[Shedendman]

Go army,dirty brown with olive drab,lol

 

[brewdexta]

I had a nato sand rag top 90 until the ankle biters came along, noisy, rattly, slow but some how very nice

 

[Shox Dr]

+1, its the woodworking equivalent of "showerproof" clothing, i.e. you get soaked at the first sign of moisture.

Sorry Andy but someone has to ask the question. So why did you use MDF? Phenolic would have been the dogs dagglies.


However Im sure it will last a longtime and you have made an excellent job of it

 

[octo0072000]

Andy
read my first post about using PVA glue thinned to seal it works every time

 

[brewdexta]

Andy
read my first post about using PVA glue thinned to seal it works every time

Thanks for that its what the Toylander owner recommends too however some paint systems prefer bare wood. I will probably end up using PVA and the Rustoleum with a roller.