Buying a stick welder

  1. Joe45 Member

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    HI guys a friend of mine is looking for a good stick welder somthing that will burn 4mill rods. Any advice guys . Air cooled transformer or dc inverter .
     
  2. gaz1

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    the better type for all day use would be an oil welder but there heavy units so really not for transporting

    i believe after a 110 oil cooled welder you would need a more dedicated power supply to it

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    other than that a good arc welder above 120 amps or a digital arc welder
     
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  3. Joe45 Member

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    It'd be hard get a good clean oil cooled welder. We looked at a few and they weren't too clean . What would be a good inverter to buy to run a 4mill rod
     
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    gaz1 Member

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    depends on what you class as not too clean to open these things up as they are heavy you kinda wouldnt know other than test it works on each setting

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  5. Tom Orrow L

    Tom Orrow L Welding Supplies Direct

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    Most 160A-200A rods will burn a 4MM rod, the question is how long do you want to run 4MM rods for?
    4MM rod burning will take you to the top end of your amperage so you're going to want a decent duty cycle if you're planning on laying down rod after rod.
     
  6. angellonewolf

    angellonewolf Member

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    what power supply have you got for it to run off would very much help in what to buy
     
  7. Joe45 Member

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    Single phase 32 amp power suplie . He would burn quite a few 4 mill rods but not every day . There's very few sechand oil cooled machines for sale over here and odd time you might see a clean set advertised
     
  8. Tom Orrow L

    Tom Orrow L Welding Supplies Direct

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    Have a look at the GYS E200 FV or the PROGYS 200 PFC, both good duty cycles and will run 4MM rods happily. Just depends what sort of abuse its gonna get as to which one is more suitable.
     
  9. brightspark

    brightspark Member

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    just because an oilcooled welder case looks grubby and the leads are rotten don't dismiss it if the price is right . the inside will probably be like new .mine looks tatty and done a fair bit but will run another 45 years renew the leads clean and paint and it will be like new they can be had from 70 to 120 quid 180 amp
     
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  10. Joe45 Member

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    I was talking to him this morning and he was on for buying a jasic 200amp machine. Would they run 6011 rods . And 7018
     
  11. Tom Orrow L

    Tom Orrow L Welding Supplies Direct

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    7018 most likely, 6011 may struggle as they're a cellulosic rod so prefer being run with a high open circuit voltage machine. Parweld XTS 162 / 202 have a cellulosic mode which ups the OCV, might be worth considering?
     
  12. Joe45 Member

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    Hi guys he ended up buying a used glx 260 turbo air cooled welder. Wouldn't have been my choice haha .
     
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  13. zeppelin builder

    zeppelin builder Member

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    Worth checking underneath for corrosion on case. look for oil seepage
     
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