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Unread 28-05-2011, 8:02 PM
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Default Cellulose Paint

Going to be having a practice at spraying but have a few questions.

Just wondering what is the going rate for Cellulose Paint & Thinners?

What volume is it usuriously sold in, 500ml, 1L etc?

After mixed with thinners, if there is a fair bit left over can you just put it in a jar and re use?

Been looking on Yell but not coming up with paint suppliers in my area, is there any key words I should use for doing a search?

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Unread 28-05-2011, 8:10 PM
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Last time i bought any (November(ish)) it was a little over £8 for a gallon. A 25L container would have made that significantly cheaper but I hardly use any so I didn't bother. That was Tetrosyl thinners from a local motor factor.

I can't remember how much the paint was but £30 for 5L rings a bell.
I have had no issues tipping thinned down paint back into a the tin (I use it to paint kitchen doors and don't really need a hi-build coat)
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Unread 28-05-2011, 8:37 PM
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Cellulose where I buy it is very much dependent on what colour and quality you want. Cheap white is from about £15 a litre and best metallic can go up to £75 a litre. If you put mixed paint back in a clean jar it will eventually separate but I have mixed it back in and reused it on bits of jobs where I was not too fussy about the finish like brackets and under bonnet. Also where I buy it will mix it up and aerosol it for you or mix anything from 125ml upwards. If you just want some for trying out order from Jawel on ebay.
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Unread 28-05-2011, 9:06 PM
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Search Google for Jawel, they are always helpful with advice aswell
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Unread 28-05-2011, 9:21 PM
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If you just want to practice buy a litre of cheap transport paint and thin it with turps.
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If my practice goes well I want to aim for something straight away so want to practice with two colours I intend to use.

Will be having a go with in the next couple of weeks, hopefully turn out fine as I have read soooooo many how too guides.
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Unread 29-05-2011, 12:38 AM
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Spraying paint isnt difficult, but getting the prep work is much harder, and the final result wont be that great if you choose to use cellulose materials, rather than 2K.
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Unread 29-05-2011, 8:50 AM
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I'll agree with that,

Celly is to fragile, I've been spraying for years and I find it worse to spray than 2k. I only use 2k clear over base now, I dabbled in waterbase but there is no advantage for me, and you have to use a solvent clear anyway.

2K, gloss from the gun and a higher build so is way more forgiving.

Celly is pretty noxious as well.
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Unread 29-05-2011, 9:12 AM
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Not true at all. More anti cellulose myths I'm afraid! I have used both cellulose and 2K. I would not use 2K at home- it can and has killed people spraying 2K at home.

You can, if you are a good sprayer, get a decent gun finish from cellulose paint. Need to finish with the top gloss thinners, and the last coat 75% thinners. I haver actually found it more difficult to spray 2K as it dries a lot slower and is more prone to runs and sags. The advantage of 2K for the trade is it goes on thicker- so less coats are needed.

You need 5L of cellulose to paint a car, and using several top coats can get a great finish and depth of shine. To get a really good paint finish- whether using 2K or Cellulose, you need to wet flat the paint once fully dried and machine polish. That applies to both paint systems. The rest is down to using decent materials and the skill of the painter.
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Unread 29-05-2011, 9:52 AM
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I've been spraying for over 15 years both Professionally and DIY

2k is still the better way to go, Celly is fragile, it's easily damaged by thinner, petrol, and suffers far more problems for the unexperienced.
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