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Old 29-08-2009, 12:25 AM
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I was doing a small paint job a couple of weeks ago in the shed i've got two extracter fans one large one small so on i went with the job mask on a 3M thought that will do the job and it did for the face. the bad mistake was not understanding the paint as i have always used 2K. It wasnt till i woke up in hospital that i was told that I had to be brought back to life as my lungs had shut down and didnt know that it contains isocyante or something like that so it's celluloss from now on.
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Old 29-08-2009, 12:38 AM
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ur lucky to be alive shoreangler, lucky someone came to you when u passed out

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Old 29-08-2009, 12:40 AM
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the sounds like dangerous stuff good to hear that you are all right
for anybody thinking of spraying with that kind of paint have a read through this
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Old 29-08-2009, 2:29 AM
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mask on what sort of mask the dust type things ?
if so you were asking for it idealy you want an air fed (filtered air) or a carbon filter mask
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Old 29-08-2009, 9:47 AM
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mask on what sort of mask the dust type things ?
if so you were asking for it idealy you want an air fed (filtered air) or a carbon filter mask
Hi Snooper.
The Mask was not air fed but it was carbon filtered cost around £30 but I was told that the mask was not what caused the problem, That chemical that is in the 2K seemingly can get through the eyes and the pours in your skin very quickly so idealy i should have had a full suit with the air fed system, but like i said leason learnt mate.
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Old 29-08-2009, 10:53 PM
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The filters always carry a warning that they are not capable of filtering out isocyanates. So no, it didn't even do the job for the face.

You always use 2K and you've never had problems before? And you were never aware that it contains isocyanates and that these require special protection?

You don't "ideally" need an air-fed mask - you "must" have an air-fed mask unless you're spraying outdoors and can guarantee you won't be breathing in the paint nor coming into skin contact with it.

Glad you survived and have learnt the lesson. I hope there is no lasting damage but I fear there will be.
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Old 31-08-2009, 1:04 PM
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The filters always carry a warning that they are not capable of filtering out isocyanates. So no, it didn't even do the job for the face.

You always use 2K and you've never had problems before? And you were never aware that it contains isocyanates and that these require special protection?

You don't "ideally" need an air-fed mask - you "must" have an air-fed mask unless you're spraying outdoors and can guarantee you won't be breathing in the paint nor coming into skin contact with it.

Glad you survived and have learnt the lesson. I hope there is no lasting damage but I fear there will be.
Your right Bill I have used it for years with no effect I should have paid more attention and have been told now that i will be an asthmatic, I guess I have paid the price for stupidity, but I hope that this will let others know the effects that can happen when not doing things by the book,and find things out by checking up first not after when the damage is done,like this idiot sitting here typing this.
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Old 31-08-2009, 1:15 PM
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Sounds like a very lucky escape. Glad you came through it relatively unscathed.

Reckon this thread should be a sticky to warn others of the dangers so we can all learn from it.
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Old 31-08-2009, 5:58 PM
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I've very sorry to hear about your troubles. Stay well clear of anything containing isocyanates in the future - once you are sensitised they will trigger asthma attacks.

I will sticky the thread if it's OK. It's a good warning against using those 2K carbon filter masks. The guy in the case study in Scarecrow's link (3rd post) used them too, and wasn't so lucky.

Paint shops will willingly sell 2K paint to home users, and my paint shop tried to sell me the carbon filter face mask. I do spray 2K but only with the air fed full face mask (lovely and cool in the summer) and disposable paint suit. I was lucky enough to ask on here and read up before painting, but the information is not so widely offered as the paint itself. Even then I don't like the stuff.
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Old 31-08-2009, 11:30 PM
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I can only pray that people take note of this, I know that i was very lucky but please people dont make the same mistake i did your playing with your life, leave the 2k to the professionals with the proper equipment.
Thanks to all who read this thread and pay attention to it.
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